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Muslims shaping the fabric of our nation

Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:12 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:12 am
Turns out that Obama has a point.

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5. Getting us here in the first place
This one predates the United States as a nation, but without it, the United States would not exist. Every schoolchild knows, or used to know, that in 1492 Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue and discovered America while searching for a new, westward sea route to Asia. But why was he searching for a new route to Asia? Because the fall of Constantinople to the Muslims in 1453 closed the trade routes to the East. This was devastating for European tradesmen, who had until then traveled to Asia for spices and other goods by land. Columbus’s voyage was trying to ease the plight of these merchants by bypassing the Muslims altogether and making it possible for Europeans to reach India by sea.

So the bellicosity and intransigence of Islam ultimately opened the Americas for Europe – and made the United States possible.

4. Slavery
Slavery is condoned in the Qur’an as well as the Bible, and has been taken for granted throughout Islamic history, as it was in the West until the advent of the great abolitionist movements in the U.S. and Britain. The opening of the transatlantic slave trade provided Muslim slave dealers in Africa with a lucrative new market – one that they cheerfully and energetically exploited.
One consequence of this has been claims by the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and other Islamic advocacy groups in the U.S. that the first Muslims in the U.S. were slaves imported from Africa. This, of course, feeds the sense of victimhood that CAIR so assiduously cultivates for the political power that it offers, but it cuts in the other direction as well: not only the slaves, but the slave traders who sold them to Europeans and Americans who brought them to the New World were Muslims, operating in accord with the sanction of slavery given by Muhammad and the Qur’an.
Arguably, then, if it weren’t for the Islamic slave industry on the African continent, there would have been no slavery in the New World, and none of the attendant national traumas that reverberate down to this day. This means, of course, that one way that Muslims have contributed to building the very fabric of our nation is by setting in motion the chain of events that led to ongoing racial tensions in the U.S., and ultimately to the election to the presidency of Barack Obama.

3. The Marines
“From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli…” The line from the Marines’ hymn commemorates the Marines’ actions during the First Barbary War (1801-1805), the first war the United States fought against Islamic jihadists. The war came about because President Thomas Jefferson refused to accede to the Barbary states’ demands for tribute payments – demands made in accord with the Qur’an’s dictum that the “People of the Book” must be made to “pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29). The Barbary pirates, also acting in accord with Islamic law regarding the kidnapping, enslaving and ransoming of non-Muslims, were seizing American ships and enslaving the crews, demanding exorbitant ransoms for their release.
The Marines put a stop to all that, and the line from the Marines’ hymn shows how pivotal their actions on the Barbary coast were to forming the Marine ethos. So for the Marines, too, we have Muslims to thank.

2. A drastically weakened economy
Osama bin Laden explained that he mounted the 9/11 jihad terror attacks in order to weaken the American economy. In October 2004 he exulted: “Al-Qaeda spent $500,000 on the event, while America, in the incident and its aftermath, lost — according to the lowest estimate — more than $500 billion, meaning that every dollar of al-Qaeda defeated a million dollars.” Then there are the further billions lost since 2004, and the billions wasted on the nation-building misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan – such that if he were alive today, bin Laden could look with satisfaction on an America with a severely weakened economy, high unemployment, and no imminent prospects for genuine recovery.
We experience the effects of this every day in a thousand ways, large and small – in an America that is poorer, uglier, meaner, more dangerous, less productive and less efficient than it was on September 10, 2001. A veritable contribution to the fabric of our nation indeed.

1. The TSA
Once romantic and even glamorous, air travel today is an uncomfortable, uncertain, unpleasant, inhospitable, cramped affair involving intrusive and inefficient security procedures that annoy and humiliate travelers. At least everyone is humiliated equally. Passengers are poked, prodded, threatened, herded like cattle, beleaguered with delays, and treated as if they were criminals in a politically correct attempt to avoid focusing on the true source of the problem.
Meanwhile, the TSA and the Department of Homeland Security are two new bloated and ever-growing bureaucracies, further draining the already depleted American taxpayer.
And that, surely, is the crowning contribution that Muslims have made to “building the very fabric of our nation” as it stands today.



Muslim contribution
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 10:13 am
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:24 am to
Good read. Thanks. Re: Barbary pirates... how come I never read about the Somali Pirates justifying their raids as fulfilling the Koran? The ones I read interviewed were very honest.. "We wanted money."
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:33 am to
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justifying their raids as fulfilling the Koran


I think this might be a way of cloaking 'raiding and pillaging your neighbors' with some sort of morality.

In private Muhammad probably laughed his arse off that he pulled that shite off on his dumb masses.
Posted by constant cough
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:42 am to
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Because the fall of Constantinople to the Muslims in 1453 closed the trade routes to the East.



Speaking of when are the muslims gonna give back occupied Constantinople?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67674 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:45 am to
Maybe we can do a swap.

They get Jerusalem and the west gets Constantinople.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:47 am to
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Getting us here in the first place
Ferdinand and Isabella expelled the Moors in 1492. The loot they collected in the process provided enough treasure to make taking a risk on Columbus worthwhile. So in a way, Muslims funded Columbus.
Posted by UPT
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 3:09 pm to
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Ferdinand and Isabella expelled the Moors in 1492. The loot they collected in the process provided enough treasure to make taking a risk on Columbus worthwhile. So in a way, Muslims funded Columbus.


Posted by Ghazi
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 3:41 pm to
9/11 probably cost way more than 500k to pull off, especially if US fingerprints were behind it.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 3:43 pm to
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9/11 probably cost way more than 500k to pull off, especially if US fingerprints were behind it.



Wut?
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 3:45 pm to
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9/11 probably cost way more than 500k to pull off, especially if US fingerprints were behind it.






Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 4:18 pm to
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9/11 probably cost way more than 500k to pull off, especially if US fingerprints were behind it.


Wait, you're a 9/11 truther now too?
Posted by Love me some Les
Member since Mar 2014
185 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 4:37 pm to
Yea, didn't it take 8 marines to bring down the Barbary coast?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:06 pm to
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inand and Isabella expelled the Moors in 1492.


Moops.
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