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Did the media destroy Ron Paul's chances in 2012?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:34 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:34 am
Had a discussion with a friend tonight and would like to know what a mostly republican board had to say.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:48 am to rbWarEagle
No, individual Americans who understand how important certain government services are to their well-being ended his chances.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:32 am to rbWarEagle
You can't destroy what never existed.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:52 am to rbWarEagle
I'm one of the biggest Ron/Rand fans on earth, but no, I think it was just simpler than that. His campaign was too niche. People were hard-pressed to get on board with him because he spoke in different terms than the other candidates. Rand on the other hand has been racking up support based on how much better of a speaker he is.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:55 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Rand on the other hand has been racking up support based on how much better of a speaker he is.
Rand has also reached out to minorities in a way his father didn't.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:56 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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I'm one of the biggest Ron/Rand fans on earth, but no, I think it was just simpler than that. His campaign was too niche. People were hard-pressed to get on board with him because he spoke in different terms than the other candidates. Rand on the other hand has been racking up support based on how much better of a speaker he is.
Pretty much this. As much as I liked Ron, Rand has done a better job trying to spread his message and doesn't come off as "too by-the-books" (as one of my friends puts it).
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:31 am to SpartyGator
Nope, Ron pissed on his on Corn Flakes.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:57 am to Wtodd
Ron was a lecturer and he knew that. Years from now, people will recognize how vital he played in Rand's election in 2016.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:03 am to RollTide4Ever
lol ... ron paul didn't get elected because republicans and "conservatives" aren't conservative ... had nothing to do with him being a better speaker than politician ...
Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:04 am to rbWarEagle
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Did the media destroy Ron Paul's chances in 2012?
No.
He never, ever had a chance.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:05 am to rbWarEagle
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Did the media destroy Ron Paul's chances in 2012?
They did in conjunction with the national GOPs and state GOPs. It was a an effort from all parties because Ron Paul was simply too dangerous.
The first thing they did was lie about who won Iowa. Ron Paul won Iowa. This wasn't reported until months after the fact when it no longer mattered. State GOPs, with the support of the national GOP, systematically locked Ron Paul delegates out of state conventions despite winning seats at state caucuses. He and his supporters were literally shut out of the party.
You can always tell who the media likes, hates, and fears.
Likes: they talk about you constantly, always painting you in a sympathetic light or praising your brilliance and competence.
Hates: They take one of two approaches
Hateraid1: They attack your credibility and reputation, paint you as a racist, a bully, a loon, a bigot, out of touch, an elitist, a wimp, ect. Anything to discredit you at all costs.
Hateraid2: They praise you as if they love you all the way through primary season and then revert to Hateraid1 mode once you're the challenger in the general election.
Fears: you become the Room 13 in a hotel. The media doesn't mention your name, doesn't show your face, nothing. Absolute silence. They assume that if they don't mention your name, even if just to discredit you, that no one will no about you and you'll disappear.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:13 am to rbWarEagle
I love this "media" theme.
It's always aimed at why someone's chosen position or candidate isn't embraced by the idiot masses.
If you think only your side is smart and insightful you are probably wrong and moreover probably dumber than average.
It's always aimed at why someone's chosen position or candidate isn't embraced by the idiot masses.
If you think only your side is smart and insightful you are probably wrong and moreover probably dumber than average.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:00 pm to rbWarEagle
I just wish Ron were 20 years younger.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:04 pm to rbWarEagle
Yes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RonPaulCensored
Daily Show Story on it
Look those over and see what you think.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RonPaulCensored
Daily Show Story on it
Look those over and see what you think.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:24 pm to rbWarEagle
Fox did go out of their way to de-legitimize RP as much as they could.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:26 pm to AUin02
Why? So he could run for President for a grand total of 50 years with not a shot of winning?
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:28 pm to kingbob
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They did in conjunction with the national GOPs and state GOPs. It was a an effort from all parties because Ron Paul was simply too dangerous. The first thing they did was lie about who won Iowa. Ron Paul won Iowa. This wasn't reported until months after the fact when it no longer mattered. State GOPs, with the support of the national GOP, systematically locked Ron Paul delegates out of state conventions despite winning seats at state caucuses. He and his supporters were literally shut out of the party. You can always tell who the media likes, hates, and fears. Likes: they talk about you constantly, always painting you in a sympathetic light or praising your brilliance and competence. Hates: They take one of two approaches Hateraid1: They attack your credibility and reputation, paint you as a racist, a bully, a loon, a bigot, out of touch, an elitist, a wimp, ect. Anything to discredit you at all costs. Hateraid2: They praise you as if they love you all the way through primary season and then revert to Hateraid1 mode once you're the challenger in the general election. Fears: you become the Room 13 in a hotel. The media doesn't mention your name, doesn't show your face, nothing. Absolute silence. They assume that if they don't mention your name, even if just to discredit you, that no one will no about you and you'll disappear.
This
Although, I wouldn't blame his media blackout on the GOP alone. The dems didn't want to run against Dr. Paul. MSNBC, Fox, and CNN were all playing the same game.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:32 pm to TerryDawg03
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Daily Show Story on it
That was pretty good
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:45 pm to kingbob
quote:This.
They did in conjunction with the national GOPs and state GOPs. It was a an effort from all parties because Ron Paul was simply too dangerous.
The first thing they did was lie about who won Iowa. Ron Paul won Iowa. This wasn't reported until months after the fact when it no longer mattered. State GOPs, with the support of the national GOP, systematically locked Ron Paul delegates out of state conventions despite winning seats at state caucuses. He and his supporters were literally shut out of the party.
It was the same in '08. As a delegate I saw it first hand.
quote:The media is just a tool used by the establishment to put forth the two candidates they have predetermined as such, giving the general public the illusion that they had a say-so in it.
You can always tell who the media likes, hates, and fears.
Sorry if this upsets anyone, it's just how things work. I suspect it's pretty much how it's always worked.
You have very rich and powerful people who choose our leaders based on what they think those folks can do for them. It isn't some dark mysterious illuminati conspiracy theory, it's just human nature.
The fact is, Ron Paul was going to do NOTHING for those rich and powerful folks and they knew it and they made sure he didn't get anywhere near the White House. And yes, the media was compliced, playing its part, in doing so.
It was definitely a concerted effort and a dumbed-down narcissistic society bought it, like it always does, and this country continues along with nothing ever changing regardless of whether an "R" or a "D" is in office.
It has been the ruin of this country and I hold little hope in it turning around.
Furthermore, if you actually believe Rand Paul has any chance at the White House, then you have provided me with Exhibit A of my thesis.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:00 pm to kingbob
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kingbob
Sounds like you watched the "How the media stopped Ron Paul" (or something) on YouTube
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