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Why I believe the Supreme Court should side with the original Halbig panel

Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98889 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:38 pm
[link=(www.ncsl.org/documents/health/ppaca-consolidated.pdf)]This is a link to a .pdf of the ACA[/link]

www.ncsl.org/documents/health/ppaca-consolidated.pdf

If you look on Page 68 of the document, you will see that Part III is entitled "State Flexibility Relating to Exchanges"

If you read through, you will see that there is a very clear distinction made throughout this part between "Federal" (or, sometimes, the "Secretary" [which is the Secretary of HHS]) and the "State."

On Page 69, you will note specific reference to the "State's Exchange" in Sec. 1321(e)(2).

Additionally, throughout the US Code, the term "State" has a separate definition from the term "United States" (including [and especially] 42 USC 201, which defines "State" for the entirety of the Chapter, with the exception of certain provisions [which coes NOT include parts containing the "Affordable Care Act"]).

So, contrary to the decision of the 4th Circuit, and the dissenter from the DC Circuit panel decision, there is no ambiguity. Therefore, the IRS can't change this through regulation.

This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:40 pm to
Rex will be here to tell you that you cannot read and you hate poor people.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

there is no ambiguity.


There is because obama says so, just ask rex.
Posted by Semaphore
a former French colony
Member since Jan 2013
275 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:41 pm to
The link didn't work for me but I have heard it said that the term 'federal exchange' does not even exist in the text of the ACA.

True or not?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:42 pm to
"such an exchange"


same thing
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:43 pm to
It will be colossal if the ruling is sustained by the dem appointed judges
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98889 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

"such an exchange" same thing


Stick with lying about being a Ph.D., because you damned sure aren't a J.D.

Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

The link didn't work for me but I have heard it said that the term 'federal exchange' does not even exist in the text of the ACA.

True or not?


This really isn't a case of the interpretation of ACA.

The case is about an Internal Revenue Code provision which states that --


quote:

The term “coverage month” means, with respect to an applicable taxpayer, any month if—

36B(c)(2)(A)(i)
as of the first day of such month the taxpayer, the taxpayer's spouse, or any dependent of the taxpayer is covered by a qualified health plan described in subsection (b)(2)(A) that was enrolled in through an Exchange established by the State under section 1311 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and ...


In ACA, State Exchanges were established under section 1311. The Exchange established by the federal government was established under section 1321.

In an extremely politicized regulation, the IRS did nothing short of write out the phrase "established by the State under section 1311" in determining who would get a subsidy.

I know what you're thinking -- the IRS politicized???

Surely you jest!

This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

quote:
The term “coverage month” means, with respect to an applicable taxpayer, any month if—

36B(c)(2)(A)(i)
as of the first day of such month the taxpayer, the taxpayer's spouse, or any dependent of the taxpayer is covered by a qualified health plan described in subsection (b)(2)(A) that was enrolled in through an Exchange established by the State under section 1311 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and ...



In ACA, State Exchanges were established under section 1311. The Exchange established by the federal government was established under section 1321.


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