30 Something

I was a big fan. Gave you multiple people to hate on. Hated Michael until Hope cheated on him. Then I wished death on her. Garry was a pretentious douche.

Miles Drentel is still one of the best characters in the history of TV. Loved that he showed up on Mission Hill.

Couldn't get into it, albeit I wasn't exactly the show's demographic at the time. Always that Ken Olin was a bitch and his wife's character (Hope?) was insufferable.

That said, Timothy Busfield and Peter Horton were generally the tits.

st elsewhere was the greatest medical drama of all time. it was the hill street blues of medical drams

Everything is pretentious with you?

In so many of your posts?

Do you even know the definition.

This wasn't a show about teenagers acting like all their minor calamities were the worst things to ever happen in mankind. This was not a stupid teenager version of mumble-core.

These were adults with real issues...cancer, children, parental problems, adult relationships where no problem was exaggerated...in fact, contrary to pretentious, it was muted...and complicated.

There were some bad characters but it was refreshing for once to see adults have problems on TV that didn't involve war or drug addiction. TV shows shouldn't be stupid Ozzie and Harriet or at the only other spectrum...MASH.

Every day adult problems...that are complex inter-personal.

Not every show can be Dukes of Hazzard. (I'm assuming you didn't think that was pretentious and loved it.)

I don't remember calling anything pretentious lately, but if I did, I was probably right about that too. Seems logical.

Here's my definition of the word - a tv show geared toward the most self entitled generation in human history, full of sushi making, orange cappuccino drinking, Haagen-Daaz eating, suspender-wearing yuppies whose real life problems, as you put it, were scientifically created to pull on the heart strings of the aforementioned generation. That last bit made it more patronizing than pretentious, but it scored pretty high in both categories.

You seem upset. I didn't know that Judd Nelson's career was such a sensitive subject for you.

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Not every show can be Dukes of Hazzard.

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And this is the real tragedy. Dukes of Hazard was like the Appetite for Destruction of network TV.

The other guy

You still don't know the definition.

And no, it wasn't remotely my favorite show...as I stated earlier that I hated quite a few characters.

But I'm not blind and arrogant and to disparage a show on false pretenses. Nothing irks me more than people who overuse words in the wrong context...and then appropriate them for themselves..."this is my definition" - what the hell is that?

Who are you to define words to suit your convenient prejudices?

Just say you didn't like the show because they were yuppies (well, duh, it was an 80's show) - and that you hate people who wear dress clothes and have well-paying jobs who might have problems.

I wouldn't have responded if but for your "pretentious" tirade - exemplified by your long-list definitions...shortened to...if guys aren't sitting around drinking Budweiser talking about trucks, they are pretentious.

That's not the definition. You can have a cultural difference and not be pretentious.

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SUSPENDERS.

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Uh...yeah...made a comeback in the 80's.

Wall Street??? (movie too)

That's like complaining about Vans in the 80's or crew-cuts in the 80's.

Or any fashion today from yester-year. Do you wear no clothes that ever appeared at any other point in history...your clothes are all fresh and brand new designs?

Hope you don't ever wear a baseball cap because that's old.

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It was a joke. Relax.