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Are we still a government of the people, by the people, and for the people?
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:49 pm
I mean, do you feel that this government , not just this administration, but the government on a whole embodies the words Lincoln uttered and the government serves the people, or another interest? If not, then what, and when did it go awry?
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:51 pm to Mike da Tigah
No. We are witnessing a government for the government by the government. The voting public is merely a pawn for their agenda.
America doesn't stand for anything anymore with this administration.
America doesn't stand for anything anymore with this administration.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:53 pm to Mike da Tigah
Aristocratsy.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:54 pm to Mike da Tigah
2 of the 3...just not for the people.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:58 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Are we still a government of the people, by the people, and for the people?
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:59 pm to Mike da Tigah
It really went wrong a long time ago. States retaining their sovereignty were a huge check on federal govt power. with that natural stop no longer in place the fed has nothing to stop it.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:00 pm to 4LSU2
I tend to believe our Federal government has become so all powerful in our lives that it serves it's own personal financial interests and agendas driven by the UN and other foreign pressures.
For whatever reason, I truly do not feel like the people are anything more than an inconvenient stumbling block government has to placate and get around to accomplish much larger agendas and line their pockets and lust for more and more power and control, because after money, power and control is an age old powerful addiction that's as personally satisfying as anything money can buy. To be your master and have people worship you.
For whatever reason, I truly do not feel like the people are anything more than an inconvenient stumbling block government has to placate and get around to accomplish much larger agendas and line their pockets and lust for more and more power and control, because after money, power and control is an age old powerful addiction that's as personally satisfying as anything money can buy. To be your master and have people worship you.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:11 pm to Mike da Tigah
FIFY: Are we still a government of the corporations, by the corporations , and for the corporations
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:13 pm to Mike da Tigah
No. I don't think Lincoln even truly believed the words he uttered.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:14 pm to TutHillTiger
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FIFY: Are we still a government of the corporations, by the corporations , and for the corporations
Beat me to the punch.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:16 pm to Mike da Tigah
As stated... the loss of states rights (they gave em away for money) killed us
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:17 pm to upgrayedd
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No. I don't think Lincoln even truly believed the words he uttered.
Perhaps, but it still is the basic reasoning for independence in the first place.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:18 pm to Mr.Perfect
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they gave em away for money)
States rights weren't given away they were taken away by force.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:19 pm to TutHillTiger
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FIFY: Are we still a government of the corporations, by the corporations , and for the corporations
This.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:30 pm to Mike da Tigah
frick no. Between the fedgov overstepping it's powers and shitting on states rights, and our fricking scumbag politicians exempting themselves from laws that the little people have to abide by, we're fricked. Time for a revolution.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:31 pm to Mike da Tigah
As of this December, for the past 101 years ...absolutely not.
Also, as long as our Congress and political system can be bought through money/perks lobby, we don't stand a chance.
Also, as long as our Congress and political system can be bought through money/perks lobby, we don't stand a chance.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:40 pm to bhtigerfan
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scumbag politicians exempting themselves from laws that the little people have to abide by
This, first and foremost. We are now a government by the people who control the government. Until this changes, we don't have much hope of anything getting better.
Oh, and for the record, corporations ARE people. Refer to the Supreme Court for clarification.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:41 pm to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:52 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Perhaps, but it still is the basic reasoning for independence in the first place.
Every president makes a statement like that.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:05 pm to upgrayedd
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Every president makes a statement like that.
You don't have to sell me. I know, and Lincoln saying that when he did in spite of the consent of the governed in those states he invaded pretty much says it all.
That being said, it is the first and most fundamental grievance laid out in the Declaration of Independence, and about the most American of Ideals there are. Truth be known, I think the Irony of Lincoln saying it and what that war eventually did to states rights and the will of the people to decide their own government may very well be the beginning of the end.
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