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30th Anniversary of National Minimum Drinking Age Act
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:50 am
passed on July 17, 1984. Made states, by reducing Fed Highway funds, to raise drinking age to 21.
Per Wiki:
South Dakota - Raised to 19 in 1984.
Raised to 21 (all) in 1988,
pending result of (failed)
court challenge.
Wyoming - Raised to 19 in 1984
Raised to 21 in 1986
BUT NOT SO FAST!! The Great State of Louisiana was truly the last to hold out.....
Louisiana- Raised to 21 de jure in 1987
but de facto age was still 18
until 1995 due to a sale loophole.
De facto age raised to 21
in 1995 when loophole was closed.
In 1996, briefly lowered by
Louisiana Supreme Court
to 18 until it reversed its decision,
raising to 21 three months later.
Other exceptions still remain.
Furthermore......
In Louisiana, the 1987 law raising the age from 18 to 21 was deliberately written solely to comply with the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 to avoid losing highway funding, while still allowing 18–20 year olds to drink as before. Not only did it still allow 18–20 year olds to consume in private, it contained a major loophole allowing bars and stores to sell alcohol to 18–20 year olds without penalty (despite purchase being technically illegal) which meant that the de facto age was still 18. In other words, the drinking age was 21 only on paper. This loophole was closed in 1995, but in 1996 the Louisiana Supreme Court declared a drinking age of 21 unconstitutional. That briefly lowered the de jure purchase age to 18, causing an uproar which prompted the Louisiana Supreme Court to reverse its decision, raising the age to 21 three months later. Other exceptions still remain to this day, including drinking in a private residence, and Louisiana still has some of the most liberal general alcohol laws of any state.
Per Wiki:
quote:
South Dakota and Wyoming were the final two states to comply with the age 21 mandate.
South Dakota - Raised to 19 in 1984.
Raised to 21 (all) in 1988,
pending result of (failed)
court challenge.
Wyoming - Raised to 19 in 1984
Raised to 21 in 1986
BUT NOT SO FAST!! The Great State of Louisiana was truly the last to hold out.....
Louisiana- Raised to 21 de jure in 1987
but de facto age was still 18
until 1995 due to a sale loophole.
De facto age raised to 21
in 1995 when loophole was closed.
In 1996, briefly lowered by
Louisiana Supreme Court
to 18 until it reversed its decision,
raising to 21 three months later.
Other exceptions still remain.
Furthermore......
In Louisiana, the 1987 law raising the age from 18 to 21 was deliberately written solely to comply with the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 to avoid losing highway funding, while still allowing 18–20 year olds to drink as before. Not only did it still allow 18–20 year olds to consume in private, it contained a major loophole allowing bars and stores to sell alcohol to 18–20 year olds without penalty (despite purchase being technically illegal) which meant that the de facto age was still 18. In other words, the drinking age was 21 only on paper. This loophole was closed in 1995, but in 1996 the Louisiana Supreme Court declared a drinking age of 21 unconstitutional. That briefly lowered the de jure purchase age to 18, causing an uproar which prompted the Louisiana Supreme Court to reverse its decision, raising the age to 21 three months later. Other exceptions still remain to this day, including drinking in a private residence, and Louisiana still has some of the most liberal general alcohol laws of any state.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:53 am to BACONisMEATcandy
ETA the loopholes................
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:55 am to Darkknight
Yet louisiana is still weird about letting craft brewers sell their shite
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:56 am to BACONisMEATcandy
The loophole was awesome. If I remember correctly is was like being grandfathered in.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:56 am to Darkknight
I remember when it was lowered briefly. Good times.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:56 am to BACONisMEATcandy
quote:
What was the loophole?
That you could buy it at 18, but not drink it till 21
I was legal for a year and a half and when the law changed (in August I believe), the lights came out at midnight and they carded everyone to get back in.
Under 21, no go.
As soon as the authorities left, we went back in and kept drinking.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:57 am to Cosmo
quote:
Yet louisiana is still weird about letting craft brewers sell their shite
That's more about shitty crony capitalism type shenanigans, than anything to do with actually worrying about people drinking.
21 year old drinking age is some stupid arse shite, though.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:58 am to Y.A. Tittle
Vote at 18
die in a war at 18
Charged as an adult at 18
Can consent to sex with a 90 year old at 18
Drink a beer?
CRIMINAL!!!
die in a war at 18
Charged as an adult at 18
Can consent to sex with a 90 year old at 18
Drink a beer?
CRIMINAL!!!
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:58 am to Y.A. Tittle
Yep. You can die for your country at 18 but not legally enjoy a tasty Natty Light.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:00 am to Cosmo
Nothing like ATC agents raiding bars full of 18 year olds when they were drinking legally at that same age. America.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:00 am to Darkknight
quote:They seem incredibly strict to a Wisconsinite.
Louisiana still has some of the most liberal general alcohol laws of any state.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:01 am to Darkknight
Such fricking bullshite.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:02 am to Darkknight
quote:
Louisiana- Raised to 21 de jure in 1987 but de facto age was still 18 until 1995 due to a sale loophole. De facto age raised to 21 in 1995 when loophole was closed. In 1996, briefly lowered by Louisiana Supreme Court to 18 until it reversed its decision, raising to 21 three months later. Other exceptions still remain.
I remember this. I turned 18 in 94, had a whole year of legal drinking then bam and then yay then bam again.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:03 am to Darkknight
And what a stupid fricking bill it was and still is.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:10 am to fr33manator
quote:
Vote at 18
die in a war at 18
Charged as an adult at 18
Can consent to sex with a 90 year old at 18
Drink a beer?
CRIMINAL!
This.
I don't care whether it's all 18, or all 21, or somewhere in between. I do think, however, that a government that forces people to register for conscription should let those folks buy a brew.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:12 am to LSUfan4444
This is kind of how I remember it also. It was something about the law was written to punish people drinking under the age of 21, but you could drink in private residences and establishments. Also the law didn't punish the establishment (bars) from selling to 18-21 year olds. So, at 18, you could buy a drink at the bar, and as long as you stay at the bar (private establishment) with your drink you were safe.
At least that's what I thought. I do remember everyone had a different interpretation of the law, It was confusing so the cops were just like, whatever, just be careful getting home.
At least that's what I thought. I do remember everyone had a different interpretation of the law, It was confusing so the cops were just like, whatever, just be careful getting home.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:14 am to Darkknight
I think that the bible says that kids under 21 can't drink.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:16 am to BACONisMEATcandy
quote:
What was the loophole?
I remember seeing as a little kid these dumb signs that said "must be 18 to buy alcohol, 21 to drink it"
I was so confused
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