The key assumption for Obama's party is the immigrants will vote D.

Look at history.

Irish, Italian immigrants--solid D bloc
Jewish--generally solid D bloc (some inroads in recent years but not much)
Hispanic Catholics--solid D bloc
Asian immigrants--solid D bloc

The GOP tried amnesty once, both as a means of solving the problem then and in hopes that it would convince Hispanics to vote for them. Didn't work in either case.

you are smoking crack.

If a group of people demonized you, called you a criminal, said you were a welfare leech, insulted your culture, told you to change the way you speak, eat and live, would you vote for them?

Hell, why do you think the democrats do so poorly with white males?

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And how, exactly, is that message going to get out? media? ha. boots on the ground? ha ha

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I see two ways that are probably not as effective as Democrat ACORN type tactics. Here they are:

1.) Talk to them. I do when I get he chance. The easy people to convince are the educated people that come from countries like Cuba and Venezuela.

2.) We need leadership at the national level that promotes liberty and make policy by erring on the side of liberty when making policy decisions. The consequences from those policies should yield good fruit. Reagan would be a good example. Hell, Kennedy is a decent example. But Carter, Ford, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama are bad examples. They err on the side of big government.

Get them entitled, get them hooked on government benefits so they can have a comfortable life in poverty, and they will vote however way helps them keep their life style. Throw in a little racism and it's not unthinkable that the democrats will find a way to get them to vote D.

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What was the key assumption for Bush's party during his "open door" policy?





Cheap labor.

ETA: that's a pretty solid assumption too.

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If only he'd been smart enough to realize that they would all be voting Democrat. Amirite?

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I mean, from all the anecdotal evidence that I can gather all the new immigrants from south of the border are very hard working. Is it possible that a majority of new immigrants can be convinced to vote for liberty loving candidates to help preserve some of the labor that they so desperately came to this country to acquire?

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No.

This has been a major GOP establishment/Chamber of Commerce/Karl Rove talking point. Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan even used it in their fake "Americans for Conservative Direction" amnesty push radio ads last year.

Hispanics may be hard working. They may be against abortion. But they love big government.

Look at poll after poll after poll. Latinos are more likely to support higher taxes, increases in entitlements, welfare, food stamps, Section 8, Obamacare, government programs, and more, even more than blacks in some cases.

They have roots in countries where the government took care of them (or tried to).

Don't fall for the GOP establishment propaganda that hispanics are "natural conservatives" and we need to pass amensty to get that issue off the table so hispanics begin flocking to the GOP. It's a bunch of BS.

I'd say competition with blacks for jobs alone will prevent this. Also, they will eventually run into the shrill, gay, atheist protest wing of the party and their religious values will turn many more of them.

Black Americans are the only group of people who've voted in such monolithic percentages. Latinos, like whites and everyone else, will fall on both sides of the line.

Were it not for QE...I doubt ANY of us would have a job. The Military (police) maybe; for as long as that lasted.

The systematic delivery of basic goods and services has become so much entwined with Government...at vote against government is a vote to restrict those goods and services.

Game-set-match, buddy. We're gonna have to ride this runaway train to a stop. Less a lot of low-info/all in folk wise up, ego down...and vote right. Highly unlikely. Strap in.

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Is that true? I mean, from all the anecdotal evidence that I can gather all the new immigrants from south of the border are very hard working. Is it possible that a majority of new immigrants can be convinced to vote for liberty loving candidates to help preserve some of the labor that they so desperately came to this country to acquire?

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Free shite is a helluva drug.