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Obama pivoting to education, Thoughts?

Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:22 am
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:22 am
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Obama said the U.S. education system has "a problem" in that students who would benefit the most from having skilled or experienced teachers in their classrooms are least likely to get them, including black and Hispanic students.


I agree that we need to put a much bigger focus on education in general. But read that snippet from the article again...

Implying that disadvantaged children would benefit the MOST from a good teacher?

So let me get this right. Us "privileged" ones are too dumb to benefit from the good teachers. Therefore we should force the good teachers into schools the gov. picks, even if they don't want to work there.


Kiss my pasty white @$$
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 11:24 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:23 am to
He's going to paint the solutions as the problems so his "solutions" can make more problems. Everything will be a race issue.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:24 am to
jack of all trades, master of none
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22377 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:

So let me get this right. Us "privileged" ones are too dumb to benefit from the good teachers. Therefore we should force the good teachers into schools we pick, even if they don't want to work there.


I read it the opposite way.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:24 am to
How to fix education:

-Eliminate the Department of Education
-Return the powers of public education to states or counties or even school districts
-School Choice

There, I fixed education.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Implying that disadvantaged children would benefit the MOST from a good teacher?


He's right. Maybe for the first time.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12072 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:30 am to
I strongly disagree that any group of people benefits more than the other from a good teacher.


It is way too much of a generalization to make that claim. What each kid needs, is what each kid needs. What makes one teacher good for one student, could be why they aren't for the next.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Obama said the U.S. education system has "a problem" in that students who would benefit the most from having skilled or experienced teachers in their classrooms are least likely to get them, including black and Hispanic students.


This is a factually correct statement but somehow, I doubt that Obama understands or is willing to admit WHY it is factual.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:45 am to
Is he saying AA and Latino students needs good teachers to succeed and whites and asians dont?

Or


Whites and asians benefit from better teachers and those teachers should be teaching in schools that are a majority of black and/or hispanic students?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I strongly disagree that any group of people benefits more than the other from a good teacher.


Low performers benefit far more from a good teacher than high performers. It's pretty simple.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:50 am to
Dude's probably never even seen Dangerous Minds.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Implying that disadvantaged children would benefit the MOST from a good teacher?
Yes, and he is doing so accurately. See the Law of Diminishing Returns.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Obama pivoting to education, Thoughts?

Desperately seeking some issue that hasn't blown up in his face yet?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40139 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:54 am to
WeeWee's plan to improve education

1. Outlaw Teacher's Unions
2. Vouchers
3. Stop busing
4. DO NOT ARREST FEMALE TEACHERS FOR SLEEPING WITH STUDENTS! (just kidding)
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4281 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:58 am to
quote:

least likely to get them, including black and Hispanic students


Pivoting? Still looks like playing the race card to me...
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15724 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:59 am to
Let him have at it. The government education system is fricked up anyway. If he wants to focus it on the "disadvantaged," it'd probably end up helping out the "privileged" even more.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11921 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:59 am to
What the students need are parents who put education first and make them study or put a boot in their sorry little asses.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:14 pm to
Kids in disadvantaged communities have the most obstacles placed between them and a successful adult life. Everyone knows a great teacher or teachers can reelly help a kid suceed later in life. Everyone also knows the importance of good role models, of having someone the kids can look up to.

For many kids in disadvantaged communities, a good teacher is probably their best, and maybe only shot, as getting a kid to do the things necessary to get a good education, which will allow them to overcome those obstacles.

Kids in not as bad off communities, of course, still need good teachers... but also have other role models and other avenues (parents, tutors, etc) to help them succeed.

I agree with the president in that regard. If a teacher is going to make roughly the same amount of money no matter what, and they can teach in a suburban district with lots of parental involvement and few behavior issues, or an urban district with no parental involvement and tons of behavior issues, human nature says the teacher will go tho better district.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:17 pm to
Just chuckle when Obama talks about improving education.

Democrats can't effectively reform education because they are beholden to the teacher's unions.

Any Dem action on education will only serve to funnel more money to the unions and have nothing to do with actually improving education.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 12:20 pm
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:24 pm to
Lol. He's just trying to frick as much shite up as possible before he leaves office.
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