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The Next big Threat to Obama Care

Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9619 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:07 pm
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In Michigan vs. Bay Mills Indian Community, for example, Justice Elena Kagan noted that "this court does not revise legislation … just because the text as written creates an apparent anomaly as to some subject it does not address." In Utility Air Regulatory Group vs. EPA, Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, stressed that "an agency has no power to tailor legislation to bureaucratic policy goals by rewriting unambiguous statutory terms." And a third strike came last week in National Labor Relations Board vs. Canning, when the Supreme Court unanimously found that President Obama had violated the Constitution in circumventing Congress through his use of recess appointments


Should be interesting.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99055 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:17 pm to
I'm sure Obama will just ignore any court rulings and issue more executive orders. It's so hard for him to fix the country with all these racists interfering with his efforts because some outdated document says he can't do it.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:19 pm to
Considering 8 million people have utilized obamacare, there very well may be riots in the streets if it all goes away. Sucks, I know.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9619 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:22 pm to
Eight million out of a population of 300 million?

Right, there will be riots.

This is a poorly written law, and as predicted by many GOP doctors who serve in the Congress, will collapse of its own weight. And this suit is one of the reasons why the doctors have forecasted this collapse.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4967 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Considering 8 million people have utilized obamacare, there very well may be riots in the streets if it all goes away. Sucks, I know


Most of these 8 million are in blue states, I think well over half of them reside in Cally. A small % are in red-states. Let em try it, we keep the powder VERY dry.

Let em riot(blue states), they will burn down their own nieghborhoods. Let the bleeding hearts in the blue states pay for these folks insurance.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17837 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:51 pm to
If by riot you mean Facebook rants and hashtag activism then yes. They will riot their arse off
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4281 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Justice Elena Kagan noted that "this court does not revise legislation


Wish someone had pointed this out to fricking Roberts before he revised a penalty into a tax.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Considering 8 million people have utilized obamacare


2 points...

1- were those 8 million all without ins prior to obamacare?

2- If yes is the answer to #1, what about the other 292 million people who will get massive increases? Will they riot?


Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Wish someone had pointed this out to fricking Roberts before he revised a penalty into a tax.




I think he's getting a bad rap. Didn't the Obama lawyers argue this as a tax?

quote:

In its legal brief, the department says the penalty is also a tax because it will raise revenue — $4 billion a year by 2017, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — and because it's imposed and collected under the Internal Revenue Code


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Jack Balkin, a professor at Yale Law School who supports the law, saying. "This bill is a tax. Because it's a tax, it's completely constitutional." Balkin is also quoted saying that Obama "has not been honest with the American people about the nature of the bill."



I think Roberts agreed that it was a tax because it was argued to him that way by the admin's team.

What should have happened afterwards was a new law suit arguing that the tax was illegal due to it's origin.

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:42 pm to
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What should have happened afterwards was a new law suit arguing that the tax was illegal due to it's origin.


Well there isn't a statute of limitations on that as far as I know.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

If by riot you mean Facebook rants and hashtag activism then yes.




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