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Do we have the best Declaration of Independence?

Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31633 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:04 pm
I don't know of any others. Ours starts out great, but to be honest, the list of grievances gets a little tl;dr.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 8:09 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:07 pm to
It is one of the finer pieces of American writing. Too bad we don't follow it anymore.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:08 pm to
too bad southern racists cut out the slavery bit.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31633 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:10 pm to
I don't even know what you are talking about.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

I don't know of any others. Ours starts out great, but to be honest, the list of grievances gets a little tl;dr.


Always been my opinion as well.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64208 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:11 pm to


Was thinking same.

Its the best document of its kind I've yet read. If there are better one's around would love to read em
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31633 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:13 pm to
Here's a question: who brought the declaration to England? Were they just like , don't shoot the messenger, but these mfers trippin?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Here's a question: who brought the declaration to England? Were they just like , don't shoot the messenger, but these mfers trippin?


They probably found a way to get it to some of the governors general of the colonies. Going a little deeper, I also always thought it was a little silly that they placed the policies squarely on George III. The King of England's powers were fairly limited by the time he ascended in 1760.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31633 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:19 pm to
Was thinking the exact same thing. I need to study my history. I wonder what the king said/thought.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

I wonder what the king said/thought.


What the frick are those peasants talking about? And who'd they pay to write this rubbish?

ETA: J/k. Most of the landed class in the US had meaningful connections to the landed class across the pond.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 8:24 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63443 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

I wonder what the king said/thought.


1. Bring me another glass of sherry.

2. Speaking of sherry, bring that harlot, Sherry from Brixton, to my chambers in an hour.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

1. Bring me another glass of sherry. 2. Speaking of sherry, bring that harlot, Sherry from Brixton, to my chambers in an hour.


Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20870 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:41 pm to
The Irish Declaration is similar but the outcome to the signatories was far more drastic. According to legend (and Wikipedia), Patrick Pearse read the proclamation aloud to a mass of people outside the General Post Office in Dublin. Soon afterward :
quote:

All seven signatories of the proclamation were executed by the British military (James Connolly who had been wounded in the fighting was executed sitting down in a chair) in the aftermath of the Rising, being viewed as having committed treason in wartime (i.e., the First World War).

LINK


To this day there are still bullet holes in the columns of the GPO.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19102 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:38 pm to
I remember learning in grade school that immediately after signing, John Hancock's said, "The British ministry can read that name without spectacles; let them double their reward."

It was a bold act of defiance and evidently, Hancock must have had some big gonads.

...and that's about the extent of my trivia knowledge regarding the signing.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41159 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:10 am to
2 of the greatest sentences ever:


When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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