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LA 6th District race - Cassie Felder (Now the Fair Tax thread)

Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:24 pm
I met Cassie Felder the other day and was quite impressed with her beliefs and reasons for running.

We spent a great deal of time talking about the repeal of the 16th ammendment and implementation of the Fair tax.

Also discussed changing the Jones Act and reworking the Louisiana Coastal Master Plan LINK

Discussed that most if not all of the fishermen are 100% against the master plan and that the very money that is being set asside by BP to make them whole will be used by politicians who think they know best to ultimately destroy them and their way of life.


As I said I was very impressed.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:32 pm to
Did you ask her if the 16th amendment was repealed what method would she like to see replace it to fund the government?
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Did you ask her if the 16th amendment was repealed what method would she like to see replace it to fund the government?



Through your delirium were you able to read the part that said "and implementing the Fair Tax"?

Slow down, we all know you are going to argue any point on anything about government. It's how you get thru the day.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:38 pm to
Y U mad?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

"and implementing the Fair Tax"?
Do you not understand the "Fair Tax" IS an income tax? So would repealing the 16th amendment allow a Fair Tax? To institute a Fair Tax on incomes does not require repealing the 16th amendment, it only requires a re-write of the income tax laws.

You're not very bright, are you?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28372 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

implementation of the Fair tax.


"Fair" has such a nebulous meaning. Is the Fair tax the same as a Flat tax, i.e. everybody pays the same % of income?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

"and implementing the Fair Tax"?
Do you not understand the "Fair Tax" IS an income tax? So would repealing the 16th amendment allow a Fair Tax? To institute a Fair Tax on incomes does not require repealing the 16th amendment, it only requires a re-write of the income tax laws.

You're not very bright, are you?


I think the idea of passing the FAIR Tax Act AND repealing the 18th is to ensure that after the FAIR Tax Act is passed that our government can't come along and add an income tax on top of that in the future.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

I think the idea of passing the FAIR Tax Act AND repealing the 18th is to ensure that after the FAIR Tax Act is passed that our government can't come along and add an income tax on top of that in the future.

The Fair Tax is an income tax. To "add an income tax on top of that" is saying adding an income tax on top of an income tax.

ETA: And the 18th amendment was Prohibition and had nothing to do with the income tax.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:53 pm to
The FAIR Tax is a national sales tax designed to replace the income tax. Read the bill. LINK
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21267 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:54 pm to
The FAIR Tax, if we're going by the FAIR Tax bills authored almost every Congressional term since about 2006, is a national SALES tax on new goods and services to replace ALL federal taxes (income, S.S., death tax, etc).

The FAIR Tax is NOT an income tax. The whole point is to stop burdening individuals from having to report and prove all forms of income, which is becoming more burdensome every year, it seems.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21267 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:55 pm to
Russian knows all, dontcha know?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:56 pm to
He's probably mistaking the Fair Tax with the Flat Tax, common mistake
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:57 pm to
with the implementation of the Fair tax, companies like GE, who take all of their losses in the U.S., would have no reason to do so. Our tax system incintevises companies like GE.

In the Fair tax, the playing field is level LINK
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24261 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

The Fair Tax is an income tax.


When did a sales tax become known as an income tax?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:58 pm to
The original concept of a fair tax was a flat rate income tax that everyone above the poverty level would pay and would be in the range of 10-15% or so and would have no deductions of any kind.

If the term now means a consumption tax, then I stand corrected.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:00 pm to
It's an understandable mistake and it happens a lot
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24751 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

The Fair Tax is an income tax.


How so?

I think most of the opposition to the Fair Tax comes from people who don't, or won't, take the time to understand what it is and how it would be an improvement over what we have.

If we had the Fair Tax, we wouldn't have this whole Lois Lerner mess going on right now.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

The Fair Tax is an income tax.


How so?

I think most of the opposition to the Fair Tax comes from people who don't, or won't, take the time to understand what it is and how it would be an improvement over what we have.

If we had the Fair Tax, we wouldn't have this whole Lois Lerner mess going on right now


He already admitted to getting the Fair and Flat taxes confused. He hasn't yet commented on the merits of the Fair Tax, presumably because he knows nothing about it, hence the mistake.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

The original concept of a fair tax was a flat rate income tax that everyone above the poverty level would pay and would be in the range of 10-15% or so and would have no deductions of any kind.

If the term now means a consumption tax, then I stand corrected.



GFY with this stupid shite. You were wrong and didn't know the difference. Then you come hear after calling me dumb and try to be convincing with that pathetic attempt of justifying.

And you still try with the "if" crap.

quote:

You're not very bright, are you?


Obviously a lot brighter than you! Now run along kid and google your next argument somewhere on the poli board.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69912 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Obviously a lot brighter than you! Now run along kid and google your next argument somewhere on the poli board.



I believe he said "I stand corrected". While he's not falling to his knees and sucking your dick, I think he's admitted his mistake, let's move on.
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