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Immigration: The New Colossus

Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41149 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:15 pm
quote:

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"



The poem is of course the one adorning the Statue of Liberty. I feel like a lot of folks have forgotten what this country is about. I feel like they have forgotten by whom this country was founded and how it came to be. I wonder where we'd be today if they American Indians had an immigration policy....
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:18 pm to
Thanks, Jizzy. He has already posted this.

Now we have another thread for him to wack off to while he sits in Japan and tells us how racist we are.


The problem isn't immigration. It's the flood of illegal immigration. What don't you fricking understand about that?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


Times have changed. We're almost full now. We can be and should be more selective to whom we allow to become American citizens. It's our sovereign right. That poem doesn't represent America, it only represents its author and her opinion.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41149 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:25 pm to
Then why does it adorn one of our national symbols? Immigrants aren't a problem. Unfettered welfare state is the problem.
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:26 pm to
Illegal immigrants are the problem.

Who is paying for their healthcare and housing in those warehouses? Is that not welfare?
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

I feel like they have forgotten by whom this country was founded and how it came to be


You mean like....laws? I agree, it's like people have forgotten or something.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35498 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

Thanks, Jizzy. He has already posted this.

At least this guy knows the name of the poem.
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:33 pm to
True. I should give him credit for that.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

Then why does it adorn one of our national symbols?


IDK. But I'm sure there's an answer to your question on wiki. Also, national symbols don't make policy.

quote:

Immigrants aren't a problem. Unfettered welfare state is the problem.



I'd agree in an ideal libertarian world but that world doesn't exist. Thus until we can get rid of the welfare state we have to be choosy in who we want to become new American citizens.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:34 pm to
It says "Give me your tired," not "Sneak your tired here in a box truck for a $7000 fee."
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27072 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

We're almost full now


I'm not weighing in on either side of this debate, but almost full? You serious, Clark? We aren't full by any conceivable definition of the word
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4967 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:36 pm to
The BIG difference is that people came to this country to WORK and build a life for themselfs and their families.

And most of it was done LEGALLY.

Now people come to this country to sponge off the hard-working descendants of those immigrants of yester-year.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41149 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Illegal immigrants are the problem. Who is paying for their healthcare and housing in those warehouses? Is that not welfare?



Illegal immigrants aren't the problem. It's the free shite we give to people as part of the welfare state we've created.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:40 pm to
You must be an ignorant SOB to think that translates to today's immigration problems.
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:40 pm to
Where are all of those children going to go? Who is paying for their food and healthcare AS WE SPEAK? That's welfare. Just because it isn't SSI or food stamps, doesn't mean it isn't welfare.

It's not immigration that's the problem. It's the way they are coming here. It's a burden on our healthcare system and taxpayers.

I disagree with welfare, but we should just cut off our own citizens to let in illegals?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

We aren't full by any conceivable definition of the word


From a financial standpoint, yes we are.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

I'm not weighing in on either side of this debate, but almost full? You serious, Clark? We aren't full by any conceivable definition of the word


We are full of non-producers. We don't need more people that are living off the state. Let the skilled and productive in thought the legal immigration process to offset of the oversupply of non-producers.
Posted by CoastLSUFan
Member since Nov 2010
713 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:46 pm to
Just pointing out that immigrants were not blindly allowed in at Ellis Island. They were subjected to tests on their healthiness, mental fitness, and ability to support themselves and not become a burden.

LINK
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

The poem is of course the one adorning the Statue of Liberty. I feel like a lot of folks have forgotten what this country is about. I feel like they have forgotten by whom this country was founded and how it came to be. I wonder where we'd be today if they American Indians had an immigration policy....
Jesus. Its like y'all don't consider the situation our parents and grandparents have created in this country.

If you want to have any open door policy, get rid of all welfare, otherwise, it isn't economically feasible.

So, take your pick:

Open borders and no welfare

or

Welfare and stricter immigration


Those are your options. /thread
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:49 pm to
It's amazing how they're picking and choosing to fit their agenda.

How can they think that these children quarantined in warehouses is humane? Where are they going to go? Who is feeding them?

They are breaking the law by coming here illegally. They're already criminals. They're already breaking the law.
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