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Wired: Emails Show Feds Asking Florida Cops to Deceive Judges
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:28 am
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:28 am
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Police in Florida have, at the request of the U.S. Marshals Service, been deliberately deceiving judges and defendants about their use of a controversial surveillance tool to track suspects, according to newly obtained emails.
At the request of the Marshals Service, the officers using so-called stingrays have been routinely telling judges, in applications for warrants, that they obtained knowledge of a suspect’s location from a “confidential source” rather than disclosing that the information was gleaned using a stingray.
A series of five emails (.pdf) written in April, 2009, were obtained today by the American Civil Liberties Union showing police officials discussing the deception. The organization has filed Freedom of Information Act requests with police departments throughout Florida seeking information about their use of stingrays.
“Concealing the use of stingrays deprives defendants of their right to challenge unconstitutional surveillance and keeps the public in the dark about invasive monitoring by local police,” the ACLU writes in a blog post about the emails. “And local and federal law enforcement should certainly not be colluding to hide basic and accurate information about their practices from the public and the courts.”
The U.S. Marshals Service did not respond to a call for comment.
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I wonder how much of this has been going on in across the country. I don't think we would like the answer. The police state is alive and well.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:41 am to Sentrius
For those who haven't heard, stingrays mimick cell towers in order to communicate with cell phones. Police can carry them on their person, mount them in their vehicles or fly them in drones. They are used to retrieve data from cell phones and pinpoint its location.
Local law enforcement are often getting this tech via DHS grants.
Local law enforcement are often getting this tech via DHS grants.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:58 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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Local law enforcement are often getting this tech via DHS grants.
And then signing non-disclosure agreements so that they arent even allowed to say that they use them.... even in court.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:17 am to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:thanks for that lesson. Seriously. That's scary
For those who haven't heard, stingrays mimick cell towers in order to communicate with cell phones. Police can carry them on their person, mount them in their vehicles or fly them in drones. They are used to retrieve data from cell phones and pinpoint its location. Local law enforcement are often getting this tech via DHS grants.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 4:08 am to NYNolaguy1
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And then signing non-disclosure agreements so that they arent even allowed to say that they use them.... even in court.
Totally fricked up. How can this possibly be legal?
Posted on 6/22/14 at 4:21 am to FightinTigersDammit
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How can this possibly be legal?
It's not. That's why they are lying to the judge
Posted on 6/22/14 at 5:21 am to ironsides
Emails can be incriminating. That's whhy hard drives sometimes get thrown into the Potomac.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 6:05 am to Sentrius
I read about this a while back, the officers responsible should be put in prison.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 6:06 am to Sentrius
What they are doing is creepy and Obama keeps extending the NSA bulk spying data collection.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 6:22 am to Sentrius
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Police in Florida have, at the request of the U.S. Marshals Service, been deliberately deceiving judges and defendants about their use of a controversial surveillance tool to track suspects, according to newly obtained emails.
Just another validation of Orwell's prescience....
his only error was the year it would actually happen.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 6:32 am to Sentrius
But if you're not doing anything wrong......
Amirite?
Amirite?
Posted on 6/22/14 at 6:52 am to Sentrius
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I wonder how much of this has been going on in across the country. I don't think we would like the answer.
You must know the answer then. Tell us.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 7:08 am to SpidermanTUba
I have mixed feelings on it.
Criminals use technology to hijack people's credit and steal their life's savings to the tune of 1 in 7 people. It's just one example.
Police are just toeing the line to enforce the law. A good cop would do that in the movies
Criminals use technology to hijack people's credit and steal their life's savings to the tune of 1 in 7 people. It's just one example.
Police are just toeing the line to enforce the law. A good cop would do that in the movies
Posted on 6/22/14 at 7:12 am to ApexTiger
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A good cop would do that in the movies
I have kinda always presumed cell phone conversations can be intercepted more easily than land line communications. Anyone can pick up a signal floating through the air - land lines require physical access to the line.
And really - if I broadcast a signal into the public air space - how much privacy can I expect?
This post was edited on 6/22/14 at 7:15 am
Posted on 6/22/14 at 7:32 am to ApexTiger
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Police are just toeing the line to enforce the law.
No they are committing felonious acts in violation of the Constitution and lying to judges and breaking other laws to cover it up.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:05 am to SpidermanTUba
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how much privacy can I expect?
I had friend about 20 years ago that had a Bearcat scanner with a special antenna. He could listen to one half of his neighbor's wireless telephone calls. I thought it was creepy, sort of an electronic version of window peeping with a telescope.
I think there actually be a federal law against electronic eavesdropping on cell phones by private citizens. I'm not 100% sure though. It just seems like a recall a case in the news a few years ago.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:07 am to Strannix
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they are committing felonious acts in violation of the Constitution and lying to judges and breaking other laws to cover it up.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 3:49 pm to Paluka
Bump.
People need to be aware about this. It's truly disgusting.
People need to be aware about this. It's truly disgusting.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:11 pm to Sentrius
And yet so many on this board have a problem with what Snowden did.
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