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world cup history question

Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:32 pm
Has a team ever failed to score a goal in group play, yet still advance to knockout stage?
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:36 pm to
Don't think thats possible, would have to lose out on goal differential, right?
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:38 pm to
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Don't think thats possible, would have to lose out on goal differential, right?


You'd have three ties, so goal differential wouldn't come into play. If you're Team A and have three ties, Team B beats Teams C and D, and Teams C and D tie each other, you'd advance. Team A = 3 points, Team B = 7 points, Teams C&D = 2 points

ETA: I'm pretty sure that's the only way you could advance without scoring a goal. Someone please correct if I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:44 pm to
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Someone please correct if I'm wrong.


I can think of one other miserable situation: everyone draws, no one scores, draw lots
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:46 pm to
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I'm pretty sure that's the only way you could advance without scoring a goal. Someone please correct if I'm wrong


That's how my math checks out. I'm wondering if it ever happened?
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:46 pm to
my God that would be awful
Posted by Nimbus2000
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:51 pm to
When was the last time a team went out without even a goal? France in 2002 maybe?
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:51 pm to
I actually thought of another:

Team A beats Team B 1-0.

Team A beats Team C 3-1.

Team A beats Team D 2-0.

Team B ties Team C 0-0

Team B ties Team D 0-0

Team C ties Team D 1-1.

Final Standings:

Team A: 9 pts

Team B: 2 pts (goals scored: 0, goals allowed: 1, GD: -1)

Team C: 2 pts (goals scored: 2, goals allowed: 4, GD: -2)

Team D: 2 pts (goals scored: 1, goals allowed: 3, GD: -2)

Team B advances with two points and no goals scored.
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:55 pm to
Cool. Has out been done?
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 3:03 pm to
No idea. Tried a quick Google search but couldn't find it. I'd have to assume no though. First, the chances of a team tying all three games have to be pretty small. Then, the chance that even if a team ties every game, things would play out so it could advance is smaller. And even if that were to happen, the chance that all three ties were 0-0 and none of the three were at least 1-1, 2-2, etc., just doesn't seem likely.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 3:05 pm to
Your question had me curious, so I looked to make sure

The short answer is no. Closest is Italy who topped a group scoring one goal. Most similar is Ireland who made it to the Quarterfinals without winning. Most realistic was in some random two team group in one of the first tournaments with a group stage. The winner of that group, however, scored eight in one
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 3:08 pm to
Thanks
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 3:10 pm to
99% sure it has not happened. I think Chile or someone got out of a group with 3 points a couple World Cups ago. I think one team got 9 points and the rest won one game.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:17 pm to
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When was the last time a team went out without even a goal? France in 2002 maybe?


Honduras didn't score a goal in 2010.
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