How incriminating do these e-mails have to be....

Lois Lerner being witch hunt

Better question, why hasn't someone involved sold Lerner or the White House out and gotten rich off of it? Or notoriety? Why is this the only thing the United States government can do this well at keeping a secret?

I mean, the only IMPOSSIBLE thing is that there is no real scandal that goes beyond the IRS. Right?

They don't have to be incriminating at all. Just another carrot for the Republicans.

There may be something incriminating, but there doesn't have to be. They're pandering to their democratic base by "making the Republicans look stupid", blah blah

Exactly. Lerner is a very small fish. They're not protecting her. If she was the "rogue"they say she is, then they'd have every 1 and 0 of data ever pushed by her. She isn't the rogue though, and that's why everything's gone.

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Somebody (or somebodies) must be incriminated in those e-mails for them to try this.

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It may not be incriminating as much as embarassing and a political time bomb.



For instance, it's come to light that one of the people who was leaning on the IRS to target these groups was Rep. Bruce Braley (D-IA).

Braley is running for Senate to replace the retiring Tom Harkin and is already in trouble for doing things like going to fundraisers and making fun of the idea of a farmer going to Washington DC instead of a lawyer. Not the brightest move to make when you represent a state which pretty much known for farming.

This coming out after he's already in hot water over that crap has to raise the chances that he loses to Joni Ernst, who is already capitalizing on the anti-farmer crap by highlighting how she used to be a pig farmer and wants to go to DC to "make 'em squeal".


At least one other politician up for election this time around who is tied up in this mess is Sen. Al Franken (D-MN), who was tied to it early on.


I have a feeling that if the e-mails come out, pretty much every major Dem up in a contested seat this year, like Landrieu and Mark Pryor (Arkansas) will show up as having pushed the IRS to do this.

That's not enough to get a conviction for anything as much as cause a massive public opinion swing against Dems and cost them a lot of vulnerable seats.

Losing the Senate opens the floodgates against Obama because Harry Reid and his procedural crap are part of what is keeping a lot of embarassing stuff from happening to him.

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why hasn't someone involved sold Lerner or the White House out and gotten rich off of it?

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Because there is only a small group of people who know who told Lerner to target conservative groups. Lerner may be the only one at the IRS who knows where the orders came from. Anybody who is involved could know that they will likely go to jail if they blow the whistle, and if they don't go to jail, the Democrat party will ruin them. They also know that if they go along with the ruse, there will be a presidential pardon in it for them.

These are also political ideologues who believe in their cause. Remember Sandy Berger getting caught destroying documents that supposedly incriminated the Clintons? They didn't send a thug to do this. They had Sandy Berger do it in order to keep the loop as closed as possible.

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Because there is only a small group of people who know who told Lerner to target conservative groups.

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Link?

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This ain't got a damn thing to do with Lois freaking Learner or some jackleg Senator for Iowa.

It goes straight to the top and anyone that is stupid enough to believe any different should be rendered sterile and deported.

Lets not forget who was in the WH visitor logs MORE THAN ANY OTHER PERSON!!

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I'm playing devil's advocate here.


I figure these e-mails are dirty as hell and would lead to jail time for a lot of the people involved if there were any justice.

I'm just trying to think of a situation where they'd be blocking their release if there were nothing illegal or incriminating in there.

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I figure these e-mails are dirty as hell and would lead to jail time for a lot of the people involved if there were any justice. I'm just trying to think of a situation where they'd be blocking their release if there were nothing illegal or incriminating in there.

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There you go using common sense again!! You know that's not allowed anymore!! Off with his head!