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Corn-Ethanol Mandate Policy Killing Gulf Fisheries
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:56 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:56 am
Anyone with a brain already knew this, but it needs repeating and was in the news yesterday.
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Louisiana's spring shrimp season is officially open, but what should be a time to celebrate the annual kickoff of a key driver of the coastal economy is now overshadowed by a looming threat to the Gulf of Mexico's fragile ecosystem. The "dead zone" -- a Connecticut-sized area of low oxygen water that kills off marine life -- continues to grow in size due to U.S. ethanol policy and is threatening this year's harvest and the coastal economy.
The key factor contributing to the size and duration of this "dead zone" begins hundreds of miles away in the Corn Belt. There, the aggressive expansion of a U.S. biofuel policy called the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) in 2007 incentivized the rapid escalation of corn planted for fuel production. This push for a domestically produced "green" fuel came at a time of increased reliance on foreign oil imports and heightened demand for gasoline. Yet, the U.S. energy landscape has since drastically improved due to a domestic oil and gas production boom and improvements in vehicle efficiency technologies.
Despite this, the Renewable Fuel Standard continues to require that increasing amounts of biofuels be blended into the nation's gasoline supply. As more than 80 percent of the mandate continues to be met by corn ethanol, farms across the Midwest have converted an additional 13.5 million acres to grow corn -- a particularly resource-intensive crop. For instance, while corn was planted on 23 percent of U.S. cropland in 2009, it received 40 percent of the fertilizer used across the nation. As the corn crop expands to meet the requirements of the RFS, it demands a greater amount of fertilizer, which then runs off into the Mississippi River and ultimately makes its way into the Gulf of Mexico. The end result is catastrophic.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:57 am to ragincajun03
But, but, but we're told that ethanol is "green!"
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:00 am to ragincajun03
Charles Grassley and Tom Harkin should be shot.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:05 am to ragincajun03
Corn ethanol is fricked.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:10 am to ragincajun03
this comes up every year and every year, everyone just ignores it. the dead zone is a nasty thing.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:14 am to SpidermanTUba
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Corn ethanol is fricked.
Ace Midnight finds himself so shocked to be in agreement with Spidey, he suddenly started referring to himself in the third person.
Weird.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:15 am to Motorboat
Of course everyone ignores it every year. The voters outside of South Louisiana and Southern MS don't care as long as they get their fresh seafood, though they'll bitch about prices going up.
And our elected prostitutes in Washington, D.C. will continue being prostitutes for whomever promises to give them sufficient money and aid their political careers.
And our elected prostitutes in Washington, D.C. will continue being prostitutes for whomever promises to give them sufficient money and aid their political careers.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:23 am to Ace Midnight
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Ace Midnight finds himself so shocked to be in agreement with Spidey, he suddenly started referring to himself in the third person.
Its bought and paid for by lobbyists. Sugar ethanol is far more efficient.
Corn in general is fricked.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:27 am to SpidermanTUba
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Corn in general is fricked.
Outside of a good crawfish boil or grits, I agree.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:28 am to ragincajun03
So the Gulf is sensitive to pollutants from US energy interests?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:28 am to SpidermanTUba
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Its bought and paid for by lobbyists.
A wonderful example of bipartisan corruption and tyranny.
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Sugar ethanol is far more efficient.
I'm still not convinced that ethanol is a solution, at all. However, I tend to agree that a switchgrass or other solution that does not take food acreage out of the food supply - in essence, burning food - is a better way to go - if we go ethanol at all.
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Corn in general is fricked.
Monsanto, brah.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:29 am to JuiceTerry
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So the Gulf is sensitive to pollutants from US energy interests?
Corn Ethanol is not in our energy interests.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:32 am to ragincajun03
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it demands a greater amount of fertilizer, which then runs off into the Mississippi River and ultimately makes its way into the Gulf of Mexico. The end result is catastrophic.
didn't the government just get a win via the Supreme Court on their argument that the EPA can exercise regulatory authority over states' cross-wind air pollutants? I'm not a lawyer, but it seems as if this could be a precedent to force the Greens to regulate corn-ethanol in a similar manner. Louisiana would certainly have legal standing for our affected coast line and waterways.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:32 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Corn Ethanol is not in our energy interests.
It's a net negative on energy - there's only a market for it because it is government mandated and subsidized.
No one would voluntarily use corn ethanol unless there was no other fuel available, period.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:33 am to JuiceTerry
Absolutely when it's a farce for our energy interests.
Also, data backs up the claim that the dead zone is caused PRIMARILY by fertilizer run-off, not the "evil" petrochemical industry.
Also, data backs up the claim that the dead zone is caused PRIMARILY by fertilizer run-off, not the "evil" petrochemical industry.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:37 am to Ace Midnight
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I'm still not convinced that ethanol is a solution, at all. However, I tend to agree that a switchgrass or other solution that does not take food acreage out of the food supply - in essence, burning food - is a better way to go - if we go ethanol at all.
Doesn't Brazil use ethanol made from some sort of weed?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:38 am to GeauxxxTigers23
I'm just trying to get a concensus. Some think drilling the Gulf isn't in our interests either. There are many idiots that are mad as hell that we are trying to protect waters in one thread, and I don't need to point out the BP apologists who said the Horizon was no big deal. It just gets confusing on here sometimes. I need to know what to be mad about!
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:46 am to elprez00
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Doesn't Brazil use ethanol made from some sort of weed?
BP has an operation in Brazil and Florida where they convert something very similar to a cane stalk, though it appears to grow higher and thinner than sugar cane.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:54 am to Ace Midnight
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I'm still not convinced that ethanol is a solution, at all.
It may or may not be. I'm just sayin - if you're gonna make ethanol, it makes more sense to use sugar.
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Monsanto, brah.
It started before them. Corn actually is a result of big evil government.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:03 am to SpidermanTUba
Its simple.
Food is burned as fuel to keep the price high so as to starve out the 3rd world.
Duh.
Food is burned as fuel to keep the price high so as to starve out the 3rd world.
Duh.
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