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Establishment versus "upstarts" (Tea party if you want) in GOP
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:17 pm
It's interesting how when an "upstart" GOP candidate defeats an establishment GOPer, the establishment GOPer has no qualms about going "write-in" (e.g. Murkowski in Alaska, Cantor in VA) or refusing to support the GOP primary winner (Castle - DE; the aforementioned Murkowski and Cantor), but if an "upstart" loses, they better by God fall in line and support the winner (which they do and have done).
Funny how that works.
Funny how that works.
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:24 pm to udtiger
is Cantor going write in?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:32 pm to CptBengal
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is Cantor going write in?
There's a lot of noise that he will. However, some sources are reporting that he won't do it.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:39 pm to udtiger
It was too bad of a beating... if it had been close he'd do the write-in ballot
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:42 pm to udtiger
So you started a thread on a totally false premise (a Cantor write in campaign, which he said he wouldn't do shortly after the results)?
I think it is interesting that whenever an "upstart" beats a sitting politician after bashing him and the national party for months, he and his supporters start whining about how the national party isn't giving them any money.
I think it is interesting that whenever an "upstart" beats a sitting politician after bashing him and the national party for months, he and his supporters start whining about how the national party isn't giving them any money.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:53 pm to Pettifogger
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I think it is interesting that whenever an "upstart" beats a sitting politician after bashing him and the national party for months, he and his supporters start whining about how the national party isn't giving them any money.
Brat ran on the Republican platform principles spelled out in the Republican charter. How is that bashing the national party?
The issue with Cantor is he spent $5 million on defaming Brat and all that did was give Brat name recognition. In retrospect, Cantor shouldn't have spent a dime (or very little) on opposition media. Cantor made Brat popular. lol
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:08 pm to GumboPot
Had Cantor chosen to run as a write-in, his campaign manager already had a bunch of signs made:
Carr bad
Trammell worse
Brat wurst
Carr bad
Trammell worse
Brat wurst
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:11 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
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It was too bad of a beating..
7k votes.....out of 50+ thousand isn't that much of an arse whoopin
Either way you split it, he still lost.Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:19 pm to GumboPot
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Brat ran on the Republican platform principles spelled out in the Republican charter. How is that bashing the national party?
Definitely not talking about Brat, who isn't really a TP candidate
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:31 pm to Pettifogger
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So you started a thread on a totally false premise (a Cantor write in campaign, which he said he wouldn't do shortly after the results)?
There are other examples given, and this was not a certainty (and, frankly, still is not).
I think it is interesting that whenever an "upstart" beats a sitting politician after bashing him and the national party for months, he and his supporters start whining about how the national party isn't giving them any money.
Yeah, because the establishment guy certainly discusses only the issues about their opponents (see Cantor, Thad Cochran, etc.)
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:12 pm to NHTIGER
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Carr bad
Trammell worse
Brat wurst
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:19 pm to udtiger
Well, your premise doesn't seem very common (and may be outright wrong in Cantor's case) but to give something of an "explanation", as a practical matter an unsuccessful upstart has to fall in line to have a chance of having some juice with the winning candidate and/or party in the future.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:21 pm to udtiger
1. VA has a "sore loser" law, which means Cantor can't get himself on the ballot after losing in the primary.
2. The Tea Party in VA has control of the state GOP, having beaten back some Cantor loyalists within the last two months after an attempted power play by them to wrest control.
Cantor may win if he does a write-in, but he'll be cutting his throat with the state party if he does that.
2. The Tea Party in VA has control of the state GOP, having beaten back some Cantor loyalists within the last two months after an attempted power play by them to wrest control.
Cantor may win if he does a write-in, but he'll be cutting his throat with the state party if he does that.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:23 pm to Walking the Earth
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as a practical matter an unsuccessful upstart has to fall in line to have a chance of having some juice with the winning candidate and/or party in the future.
Along the comparable lines of a union tenet? "Join the union, we'll take care of you".
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:28 pm to Homesick Tiger
In some respects, I guess.
In politics, you have to make nice with the King. Especially if you want him to adopt some of your platform.
Or you could do like Brat and just win.
In politics, you have to make nice with the King. Especially if you want him to adopt some of your platform.
Or you could do like Brat and just win.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:14 pm to teke184
I dont see cantor winning in a write in campaign. 35-40% of the district is going to go democrat, which means cantor would have to completely dominate with republicans.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:25 pm to Hawkeye95
It's a non-starter, Cantor's people have already made it abundantly clear. He's also announced he's stepping down as ML, so I think it's pretty well settled (it already was).
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:44 pm to Pettifogger
Yep. It's politically (he wouldn't win) and personally (he's giving up his seniority) pointless.
I'm sure the idea has some level of appeal because he's just been kicked in the teeth and, on an "I know those feels, bro" level it's understandable but it's nothing that a day or two of contemplating his seven figure per year future on either cable TV or a "think tank" (or both) won't cure.
I'm sure the idea has some level of appeal because he's just been kicked in the teeth and, on an "I know those feels, bro" level it's understandable but it's nothing that a day or two of contemplating his seven figure per year future on either cable TV or a "think tank" (or both) won't cure.
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