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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:50 pm
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Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:55 pm to
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Gerrymandering is a pet peeve of mine. Although it does meet the technical definition, this is not what people have in mind when they talk about contiguous districts:



The entire city is already like that. My brother in law, for instance, lives outside the city limits - right up the butt crack of the 10/12 split. He is surrounded by BR but there an island of land that is not BR right there and he was surprised when I told him he didn't live in the city.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:56 pm to
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The entire city is already like that.


I don't base my ethics on whether or not people in the past did it. Two wrongs don't make a right, etc.

I'm living in the present.
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Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 12:31 am to
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I don't base my ethics on whether or not people in the past did it. Two wrongs don't make a right, etc.

I'm living in the present.


Its just this is the first time I've heard you mention it.

Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:00 am to
Isn't it strange that the Metro Council must keep Baton Rouge's boundaries contiguous, but the same body can ignore those common sense requirements for unincorporated areas? The Metro Council has no problem leaving unincorporated areas surrounded by Baton Rouge and isolated from agencies responsible for public safety in unincorporated areas. This is just another example of elected officials putting the ends ahead of the means. The Metro Council wants control of the revenue from the Mall of Louisiana, and it doesn't care whether the money belongs to the city of Baton Rouge or East Baton Rouge Parish. Just as long as it doesn't belong to St. George despite the fact that St. George would still be part of East Baton Rouge Parish.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:14 am to
Oh, it's complete bullshite. The only reason the annexation occurred was so that the city could preserve its subsidization from unincorporated BR. There was no petition necessary because the city simply jumped all the residential areas in the annexation.

And we'll continue to watch the slow bleed of the functional population out of EBR.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:28 am to
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I understand that the St George folks are trying to make a big money grab and Kip may have felt his hand was forced, but the mayor better have a good line on Renaissance and the department stores or else I may stop knighting for him on the interwebs.


It doesn't matter. It's like a Game of thrones.

The status quo is safe.

City Hall has their money supply secured, and all education reforms for EBR were shot down at the legislature.

It will be business as usual. People have forgotten about the recent grade scandals, the Magnet people will have their schools to attend, and the teachers unions won't have to worry about losing jobs to a new school district.

It will be the same ole EBR Parish except I do see downtown kicking butt and rejuvenating itself (which is a good thing).

Nothing else is changing and SG folk will either have to make sure their child is smart and get them in a gifted or magnet program, save money for private school, or move to Ascension, Central or one of the education safe havens.

And the beat goes on.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:46 am to
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o that the city could preserve its subsidization from unincorporated BR.


Will you feel the same way if revenue from within the city limits is used to "subsidize" areas in unincorporated areas? It all seems kind of arbitrary to me.

I think it is silly that people in Shenandoah claim ownership of the mall. The mall is owned by.. whomever owns the mall.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:53 am to
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And we'll continue to watch the slow bleed of the functional population out of EBR.


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:53 am to
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Will you feel the same way if revenue from within the city limits is used to "subsidize" areas in unincorporated areas? It all seems kind of arbitrary to me. I think it is silly that people in Shenandoah claim ownership of the mall. The mall is owned by.. whomever owns the mall.


That's the way it works.

That's our system.

BR gets the local tax revenue from Cortana Mall because Cortana Mall is in the city limits.

The Mall of La's would go to SG if it became a city.

There is nothing arbitrary. It's the law.

Now you can argue that SG is too big, or that SG should have different boundaries and that's fine; but the law isn't going to change. If a city incorporates businesses inside their city limits have their local taxes go to the city.

And by local taxes I mean taxes that are not dedicated to a designated entity like BREC, the school system, etc.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:54 am to
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Will you feel the same way if revenue from within the city limits is used to "subsidize" areas in unincorporated areas? It all seems kind of arbitrary to me.


I would but that doesn't occur.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:56 am to
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I think it is silly that people in Shenandoah claim ownership of the mall. The mall is owned by.. whomever owns the mall.


You do realize that if you change Shenandoah to "Southdowns" you just described perfectly what happened?
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:58 am to
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It's like a Game of thrones


The hyperbole from the St. Georgians continues.
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