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Let's Talk War on Drugs

Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:21 am
Posted by BrentED
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2007
2216 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:21 am
Was just looking for a documentary to watch on amazon prime and ran across "How to Make Money Selling Drugs." Not bad. I've seen better documentaries, but it presents an interesting perspective that is not necessarily new but seems to be gaining steam with legalization of marijuana on different levels in states across the country. What is the OT's thoughts on the War on Drugs?

-Epic failure.
-Protects America's youth.
-Misguided and should be treating the addiction rather than the crime.
-Support because it creates a lot of jobs.
-21st century slavery.
-Necessary because drug dealers are typically violent criminals as well.
-A huge waste of money.
-Why is the government involved in what happens in the privacy of my home?
-Great because Reagan supported it and he was rarely wrong.
-Terrible because Nixon supported it.

I could go on for a while with ways folks might describe it so this is not an all encompassing list but it's a start. Thoughts?
Posted by lsudude24
Boulder, CO
Member since Sep 2005
2340 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:25 am to
Why is marijuana considered a schedule 1 drug? Because many of our elected officials have been bribed with campaign donations. Who would bribe our elected officials for this purpose? Many corporations have an interest in keeping marijuana illegal for various reasons. The private prison industry wants to incarcerate more people for profit. The pharmaceutical industry wants people to buy their drugs instead of a natural substance that can be grown anywhere. The timber, cotton and energy industries want to prevent hemp from replacing their products. The main cause of the war on drugs is BRIBERY, also known as campaign donations and lobbying.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:26 am to
I was against it, then I visited Detroit for the first time since I was a child. Ask anyone living on the south side of the eight mile road what destroyed their city. They will tell you narcotics.

The sellers of these drugs should be tried for murder for peddling a product that enslaves people, turns them into scarecrows, and ultimately kills them.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:27 am to
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-Epic failure


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-Misguided and should be treating the addiction rather than the crime.


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-21st century slavery.


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-A huge waste of money.


All of these.

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-Great because Reagan supported it and he was rarely wrong.

-Terrible because Nixon supported it.


This is what a liberal and conservative would exactly think like.

Also....

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-A huge waste of money.


Look at this graph and tell me if you can still support the WOD...

Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11802 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:27 am to
Let's talk I fricked your mom
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:29 am to
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I was against it, then I visited Detroit for the first time since I was a child. Ask anyone living on the south side of the eight mile road what destroyed their city. They will tell you narcotics.

The sellers of these drugs should be tried for murder for peddling a product that enslaves people, turns them into scarecrows, and ultimately kills them.


No offense, but this is emotional thinking that gets you nowhere.

Don't judge an idea by its intentions, judge it by its results.
Posted by BrentED
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2007
2216 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:31 am to
I meant to include big pharm and campaign donations. I think this is an excellent point. Really probably better or as good as any that I listed. Whether the WOD is right or wrong there is little doubt it is perpetuated by this.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:31 am to
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Don't judge an idea by its intentions, judge it by its results.
I couldn't give one cow turd about results. I want a government that is guided by moral principles, which includes the recognition that drugs are products that enslave people, turn them into violent, unstable scarecrows, and kills them.
Posted by lsudude24
Boulder, CO
Member since Sep 2005
2340 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:35 am to
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I meant to include big pharm and campaign donations. I think this is an excellent point. Really probably better or as good as any that I listed. Whether the WOD is right or wrong there is little doubt it is perpetuated by this.




The Health and Welfare committee, Louisiana Sheriff's Association, and the DA already know that the FDA will NOT fund any research for the medical benefits of cannabis as long as it is listed as a Schedule 1 drug by the DOJ, along with heroin and meth. Schedule 1 drugs are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. No one has EVER died from a cannabis overdose. Many independent studies have already shown that cannabis is NOT addictive and has many medical benefits. But don't let facts get in the way of keeping the DEA dollars flowing into the coffers of law enforcement at the expense of arresting people for a harmless offense.....and don't forget about the money from the private prison industry and the money and property seized through asset forfeiture laws. These people will lie until they die to keep that cash cow alive.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 1:36 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72942 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:39 am to
Epic failure. Anytime our government declares war on a social issue it gets worse. The more money we have poured down the rat hole over the last 40 years the worse things have gotten.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:42 am to
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I couldn't give one cow turd about results. I want a government that is guided by moral principles, which includes the recognition that drugs are products that enslave people, turn them into violent, unstable scarecrows, and kills them.


It's sad to see you believe the lies pushed through by people who do not have the people's best interests at heart. The only ones wanting to keep it going is the lobbyists for law enforcement, private prisons, pharmeutical companies and big ag as well to some extent.

There is nothing moral about locking people up for a vice that people consent to and harms nobody. We have learned nothing from the 1920's prohibition of alcohol and why we repealed it. Prohibition creates black markets and specifically, what you are complaining about.
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:45 am to
Tl;dr

Smoke it if you got it!
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:47 am to
It's an absolute joke.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:49 am to
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I want a government that is guided by moral principles
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:50 am to
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It's an absolute joke


Absolute? Nah. I, would rather the fricked up system we have now over the shite that goes down in countries that let drug lords run them.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55448 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:50 am to
I take part in the WoD every day. Every time I encounter illicit substances, I 'get rid' of them so that no other poor soul may suffer.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55448 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:51 am to
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I want a government that is guided by moral principles, which includes the recognition that drugs are products that enslave people, turn them into violent, unstable scarecrows, and kills them.


Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:52 am to
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I take part in the WoD every day. Every time I encounter illicit substances, I 'get rid' of them so that no other poor soul may suffer.


You are a great human being and a great American.

Does the American part offend you btw?
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:52 am to
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Absolute? Nah. I, would rather the fricked up system we have now over the shite that goes down in countries that let drug lords run them.
That's quite a stretch.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:53 am to
quote:

That's quite a stretch.


Not that far.
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