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Apple blew it with Healthkit
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:43 pm
The app seems to be tailored for a single device (iWatch) to supply the data that will then be analyzed.
I equate it to releasing iPhone OS on an ipod and not the original Iphone. They should have waited for the iWatch as that device will give the app its functionality.
Is it just me or was this a terrible execution of what seems to be a good idea.
I equate it to releasing iPhone OS on an ipod and not the original Iphone. They should have waited for the iWatch as that device will give the app its functionality.
Is it just me or was this a terrible execution of what seems to be a good idea.
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:51 pm to BayouWrangler
You mean they put the cart before the horse?
It'll be when they announce new hardware. This was a developers conference.
It'll be when they announce new hardware. This was a developers conference.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:04 pm to ellunchboxo
I'm just saying that most of the hardware they showed(pulse sensor, BP cuff, etc.) to collect the data does not have a large user base. It would have been more profound to roll it into one presentation (iWatch and healthkit companion app) which could alter the health space. The heathkit on its own is not supper useful without a unique way to make acquiring the data easier.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:38 pm to BayouWrangler
quote:the fact that this was shown at wwdc means that it is for multiple devices (including 3rd party)
The app seems to be tailored for a single device (iWatch
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:53 pm to BayouWrangler
The problem with Healthkit and this entire niche, is that there is a lot of reliance on user tracking and input of data. If they could somehow track calories consumed, blood chemistry, etc automagically, then it'd be useful. Without that I don't see how it expands past it's current pedometer/exercise monitoring niche.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:27 pm to BayouWrangler
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The heathkit
Back in the day we used to build some serious minibikes with heathkit.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:08 am to BayouWrangler
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Healthkit
Does anybody see the average user actually taking advantage of this?
For example, the only time I've ever used Siri was when I first got it to show other ppl who asked about it
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:11 am to Box Geauxrilla
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For example, the only time I've ever used Siri was when I first got it to show other ppl who asked about it
I use Siri daily while I'm driving.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:59 am to Pennymoney
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I use Siri daily while I'm driving.
That and I even use it to write long texts, find out when sunset is, and when it was tied to Google Maps rather than Apple Maps, it was a quick way to bring up traffic. It doesn't make everything better, but it does make something quicker and things like texting and driving safer. If you aren't using Siri you're probably making some things harder than they need to be.
But I do agree with him that Healthkit will be a niche product for fitness fanatics for the next few years at least.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 8:01 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:29 am to TigerinATL
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But I do agree with him that Healthkit will be a niche product for fitness fanatics for the next few years at least.
I think apple will attempt to have Health insurers subsidize the iWatch with an incentive for users based on lower premiums and better health tracking. This would be similar to phone subsidies and would result in aggressive adoption by end users and the prevelant use of the Healthkit app in the health industry. I just dont undesrtand why they unveiled it now as without the iWatch it "will (only) be a niche product for fitness fanatics."
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:35 am to BayouWrangler
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I think apple will attempt to have Health insurers subsidize the iWatch with an incentive for users based on lower premiums and better health tracking.
why would the insurers want to do this? the people that use tools like this are healthier than the nation at large.
I think this is a nothing announcement. I think those interested in health related apps is relatively small - those that have a health issue (Diabetes) or those who are health freaks.
It will be nice, and I can see using it but I don't think it will be a mass appeal out of this segment.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:01 am to Hawkeye95
If you could substantially lower your employees premiums would you not have an incentive program for a health tracker(iWatch). It would be large corporations instituting policies to help lower cost by providing accurate data to healthcare providers and thus accurately assessing true conditions and risk.
Might just be a pipe dream but I think this is the only way the iWatch matters at all. Otherwise I agree that it is a fad for the health conscious
Might just be a pipe dream but I think this is the only way the iWatch matters at all. Otherwise I agree that it is a fad for the health conscious
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:05 am to BayouWrangler
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If you could substantially lower your employees premiums would you not have an incentive program for a health tracker(iWatch)
I think Hawkeye's point is that is a huge "if".
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:07 am to BayouWrangler
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ut I think this is the only way the iWatch matters at all
does anyone have any evidence this exists or what the specs will be?
after years of changing people's behavior to no longer wear watches; now we're going to try to change that?
us older folks still have a fondness for watches, but look around. the up-and-coming kids with their fancy smartphones wouldn't be caught dead wearing a wristwatch.
this isnt a jab at apple or any company in particular; rather i think its an uphill battle to get people back to wearing watches.
just because one might exist with a built-in HR monitor doesnt really matter.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:08 am to Korkstand
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If you could substantially lower your employees premiums would you not have an incentive program for a health tracker(iWatch)
I think Hawkeye's point is that is a huge "if".
yes, and right now with most large health plans, your actual state of health is largely immaterial to your premiums. I don't see this changing.
Maybe in 10 years.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:09 am to Hawkeye95
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with most large health plans, your actual state of health is largely immaterial to your premiums.
yep.
its all those sick motherfrickers at my company that makes my rates so high. i go once a year for a physical and twice a year to get my teeth cleaned and that about it.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:15 am to Hawkeye95
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yes, and right now with most large health plans, your actual state of health is largely immaterial to your premiums. I don't see this changing.
Also, what happens if these health monitors reveal that everyone is actually less healthy that previously thought? Your watch might end up tattling on you and you end up paying more.
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