re: LSU 2015 & 2016 Football Recruiting | Commits and Discussion

Our buddy Chinese 58 is having a medical procedure done. Keep him in your thoughts and prayers, guys.

He's easily my favorite poster on the board and on 247. Real stand-up guy who is all about recruiting.

Chinese 58

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I'm trying to figure out if carter constitutes a pattern on who Sagan offers early and focuses on in Louisiana. With a few exceptions, it's not guys they have to fight for. With falkins, sims, Charlot, and now carter, it's like they pick the highest rated kid at a position that lsu has already offered a bunch of guys at in state and get in their ear.

It's a working theory, still thinking it out. Do any of you see the same pattern?

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It's hard to discern a pattern because of:
- of course both LSU and Bama will be offering many of the same kids
- if not fighting LSU for them, there's likely other SEC teams they will have to fight
- both LSU and Bama like the same depth at some of the same positions (e.g. RB,OT). This will cause them to cross paths.

And then again, I keep thinking Cameron Sims last year. But is that part of a pattern or is it just highlighted because of CRob?

Looking at 247 and offers out by both teams, (# of offers to LA kids):

QB: LSU- 2 (0) Bama- 12 (0)
RB: LSU- 9 (4) Bama- 18 (2)
WR: LSU- 17 (4) Bama- 24 (4)
TE: LSU- 9 (1) Bama- 11 (1)
OT: LSU- 20 (1) Bama- 18 (0)
OL: LSU- 7 (1) Bama- 11 (0)
DE: LSU- 18 (1) Bama- 23 (0)
DL: LSU- 11 (0) Bama- 16 (1)
LB: LSU- 14 (0) Bama- 25 (0)
CB: LSU- 18 (2) Bama- 16 (0)
S: LSU- 12 (2) Bama- 10 (0)
ATH:LSU- 11 (0) Bama- 14 (0)

Totals:
LSU: 143 (16)
Bama: 198 (8)

So on the surface, doesn't look like it. However, have to take into account that compared to the '14 and '16 classes LA is "down" a little. So that may be misleading. But if they were actively doing what you are suggesting I would think we would still see different numbers.

One thing I am seeing in the numbers, that would make the pattern you are considering a good attack strategy, is LSU's preference (not 100% adhered to) to not offer in-state kids unless they for sure will accept the commitment. They avoid turning away in-state, but do not want to miss out on OOS talent. I see that up there; the point in the cycle has much to do with that.

Another thing that may skew these numbers is (and I often forget about this myself), who you offer this year depends just as much on who you plan to offer next year and who committed the year before. Recruit 3 years at a time if you're LSU (or Bama) because of attrition.


Random thoughts (things I noticed looking up numbers):
- LSU has no offer out to TD Moton?
- forgot about him... I really hope LSU pulls in Matt Womack (OT, Hernando MS)
- Damn, Bama really offers the hell out of skill positions.

Keion Joyner still has LSU on top, says they have it locked up.

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falkins, sims, Charlot, and now carter, it's like they pick the highest rated kid at a position that lsu has already offered a bunch of guys at in state and get in their ear.

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Could be a ploy to keep the relationships alive with the HS coaches. I

Did Justin Reid move up?

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big time...he is a 4 star now

#164 now

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He earned it. The kid's good.

Bahaha

hai