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Bad scientists in cover-up of ‘damaging’ climate view
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:00 am
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:00 am
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Since when would a respectable scientist cover up studies and data that oppose their own hypotheses?
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Research which heaped doubt on the rate of global warming was deliberately suppressed by scientists because it was “less than helpful” to their cause, it was claimed last night.
Since when would a respectable scientist cover up studies and data that oppose their own hypotheses?
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In an echo of the infamous “Climategate” scandal at the University of East Anglia, one of the world’s top academic journals rejected the work of five experts after a reviewer privately denounced it as “harmful”.
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:48 am to EST
awant will be here shortly with the spin...
ETA: Vegas Bengal will be here shortly to argue name calling...
ETA: Vegas Bengal will be here shortly to argue name calling...
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 8:15 am
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:48 am to EST
If a "biologist" published a paper claiming the earth was 6000 years old it wouldn't get published either and you'd whine about it being "censored".
(/tubavegasbigscrubasurob)
(/tubavegasbigscrubasurob)
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:52 am to EST
Peer Reviewed MFers deal with it. 
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:54 am to Bestbank Tiger
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If a "biologist" published a paper claiming the earth was 6000 years old it wouldn't get published either
Gee...nice comparison.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:57 am to goatmilker
Check your detector, bro.
People fixin' to get MADDDD at this news.
People fixin' to get MADDDD at this news.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:02 am to Y.A. Tittle
I don't think any one is surprised any more. I'm a skeptic on man made global warming so I'm already a heretic and knuckeldragger.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:24 am to EST
:facepalm:
Scientists who falsify, obfuscate or hide data should be tarred and feathered.
Scientists who falsify, obfuscate or hide data should be tarred and feathered.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:24 am to EST
So you too are too cheap to join the site so you pasted only the two visible paragraphs and none of can read how the drama queen denier resigned his seat on the board because of "McCarthy-like" tactics of the big bad other scientists (iow they were critical of him).
Here's yet another example of how the right will use terms like "McCarthyism" LINK but let a liberal use that term and they'll turn around and defend McCarthy!
Why do Righties get so upset when people show them the same animosity they show others? This guy resigned because people said he was FOS when he said they were FOS. It's like the homophobes. How dare people be intolerant of intolerance!
It's like right wingers have gotten free reign to hate and to call names and now when they're the target, they
In his resignation letter, published on the think-tank's website, he
So now every time someone criticizes you, it's McCarthyism.
Here's yet another example of how the right will use terms like "McCarthyism" LINK but let a liberal use that term and they'll turn around and defend McCarthy!
Why do Righties get so upset when people show them the same animosity they show others? This guy resigned because people said he was FOS when he said they were FOS. It's like the homophobes. How dare people be intolerant of intolerance!
It's like right wingers have gotten free reign to hate and to call names and now when they're the target, they
In his resignation letter, published on the think-tank's website, he
quote:
wrote: 'If this is going to continue I will be unable to conduct my normal work and will even start to worry about my health and safety.
'I see therefore no other way out therefore than resigning from GWPF. I had not expecting such an enormous world-wide pressure put at me from a community that I have been close to all my active life.
'Colleagues are withdrawing their support, other colleagues are withdrawing from joint authorship etc.
'I see no limit and end to what will happen. It is a situation that reminds me about the time of McCarthy.
So now every time someone criticizes you, it's McCarthyism.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:36 am to Vegas Bengal
I have read both stories (or at least what was available). Is this 2 different accounts of the same event? They seem totally different.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:36 am to EST
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Since when would a respectable scientist cover up studies and data that oppose their own hypotheses?
Since large number of them get their checks from the government. If they fins out it isn't real they are out of a job and/or cash
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:52 am to Vegas Bengal
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So you too are too cheap to join the site so you pasted only the two visible paragraphs and none of can read how the drama queen denier resigned his seat on the board because of "McCarthy-like" tactics of the big bad other scientists (iow they were critical of him).
Here's yet another example of how the right will use terms like "McCarthyism" LINK but let a liberal use that term and they'll turn around and defend McCarthy!
Why do Righties get so upset when people show them the same animosity they show others? This guy resigned because people said he was FOS when he said they were FOS. It's like the homophobes. How dare people be intolerant of intolerance!
It's like right wingers have gotten free reign to hate and to call names and now when they're the target, they
In his resignation letter, published on the think-tank's website, he
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:58 am to thejudge
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Since large number of them get their checks from the government. If they fins out it isn't real they are out of a job and/or cash
Snake oil salesmen. That's all they are now.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:08 am to thejudge
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Since large number of them get their checks from the government. If they fins out it isn't real they are out of a job and/or cash
Billions, if not trillions are at stake for "climate disruption" to be right.
Academia has huge financial incentive in the form of government funding.
The government has a huge financial incentive in the form of selling carbon credits and taxation.
Wall Street (especially Goldman Sachs) has a huge financial incentive (in the form of being the broker to buy and sell carbon credits). Nothing like being a middle man like Goldman Sachs where you get to skim a little off the top from each transaction. Awesome no risk business model.
All this money they have their greedy eyes on resides in the America private sector and the American worker. These are very powerful forces they are fighting against.
As it stands now the war words is currently being won by the American producers. I don't know how long that will last? The producers only hope is that the "climate disruption" scheme continues to be debunked sufficiently enough where the producers vote like minded people into political office.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:15 am to GumboPot
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Academia has huge financial incentive in the form of government funding.
Do scientists funded by Donor's Fund and/or Donor's Trust Capital (funded by Exon and Koch Brothers) have huge financial incentive?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:18 am to a want
quote:Definitely.
Do scientists funded by Donor's Fund and/or Donor's Trust Capital (funded by Exon and Koch Brothers) have huge financial incentive?
And I don't believe the financial incentive is the biggest issue.
It is the pre-conceived ideas that these individuals go into their studies with thanks to the all-encompassing idea that a certain theory is unchallengeable in the academic setting.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:20 am to a want
"Follow the money" usually gets you to the right answer.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:22 am to goatmilker
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I don't think any one is surprised any more. I'm a skeptic on man made global warming so I'm already a heretic and knuckeldragger.
I resemble that remark.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:24 am to a want
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Do scientists funded by Donor's Fund and/or Donor's Trust Capital (funded by Exon and Koch Brothers) have huge financial incentive?
That is part of it; however, that is not the primary driving force behind this.
Those that push AGW, or climate change, or climate disruption are doing it primarily for the prospect of societal control. Taken to its "logical" conclusion, accepting AGW and further accepting that anything can be done about it would enable "the experts" to shape economies and societies as they see fit (e.g., population control, restriction of resources, etc.).
THAT's what it's all about.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:27 am to udtiger
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THAT's what it's all about.
But "science" isn't supposed to have an agenda. Just supposed to be about the science.
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