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St. George Fire Chief blasts Annexation
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:36 am
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:36 am
Accuses Mayor of "tax mining!"
Wow, if only someone could have seen this coming.
If St. George incorporates, get used to having this conversation a lot. Just additional proof that the whole incorporation effort is poorly thought out.
Wow, if only someone could have seen this coming.
If St. George incorporates, get used to having this conversation a lot. Just additional proof that the whole incorporation effort is poorly thought out.
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:41 am to BigJim
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:42 am to BigJim
it seems just like every other political topic that comes up, this shite has become so confusing/finger pointing that no one knows which way is up.
maybe the st george thing had the right intention at first but this has become such huge load of shite, that i am tired of hearing about it. status quo together just wants everyone to get along, and probably throw more tax dollars at the problem
the real reason ,i believe all of this was started, has fallen to the way side.
just let it come to a vote so we can be done with it, one way or the other
maybe the st george thing had the right intention at first but this has become such huge load of shite, that i am tired of hearing about it. status quo together just wants everyone to get along, and probably throw more tax dollars at the problem
the real reason ,i believe all of this was started, has fallen to the way side.
just let it come to a vote so we can be done with it, one way or the other
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:43 am to CurDog
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the real reason ,i believe all of this was started, has fallen to the way side.
If Pat Smith hadn't block the Woodlawn area's attempt to form an ISD, this would never have happened.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:48 am to BigJim
SG people act like these businesses are annexing against their will.
Nobody is forcing them to, they want to.
I thought SG was for letting the people decide what's best for them.
Apparently these businesses decided BR is better than the Utopia.
Nobody is forcing them to, they want to.
I thought SG was for letting the people decide what's best for them.
Apparently these businesses decided BR is better than the Utopia.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:50 am to magildachunks
Who said that? Straw man much?
Forcing <> "incentives"
Forcing <> "incentives"
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:51 am to magildachunks
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:05 pm to BigJim
quote:
If St. George incorporates, get used to having this conversation a lot. Just additional proof that the whole incorporation effort is poorly thought out.
The BRFD really doesn't have a fire station close to the Mall of La. or the BRGH.
They will probably have to build one or maybe they can cut a deal with St. George who has a station closer to these two places.
SG could take care of Dillards, Sears or the ones that stay in SG, and BRFD could take care of the mall.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:10 pm to BigJim
quote:
If St. George incorporates, get used to having this conversation a lot. Just additional proof that the whole incorporation effort is poorly thought out.
The incorporation effort very well may not be viable due to the recent changes in the city lines and resulting tax revenue.
But, don't confuse that fact with the reality that St. George residents, given tax revenue that is reflective of the area, would be much better off on its own.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:14 pm to moneyg
quote:
But, don't confuse that fact with the reality that St. George residents, given tax revenue that is reflective of the area, would be much better off on its own.
I am not sure that is really a "fact."
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:18 pm to BigJim
quote:
I am not sure that is really a "fact."
Not like the FACT that the Mall of La. being annexed will cost SG 38 million a year in sales tax revenues.
Now that's a FACT.
BTW, I believe if the Mall of la. left SG would have plenty of revenues to pay their bills. Now I'm not so foolish to believe that if quite a few other businesses decide to move in to BR it wouldn't be more of an impact because it certainly would.
But as long as people play by the rules in place, I have no problem with these people doing what they see best. I just wish the other side would quit trying to change the rules on a regular basis.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:26 pm to doubleb
quote:
BTW, I believe if the Mall of la. left SG would have plenty of revenues to pay their bills.
Actually, I am not sure why they would need more than ~$1 million. That is salary for a mayor and support staff and a police chief, plus rent and other basic operating supplies. WTF would the budget be for besides that? If all it needs to be is a shell for an ISD, why does it need a budget beyond bare bones?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:29 pm to BigJim
quote:
That is salary for a mayor and support staff and a police chief, plus rent and other basic operating supplies.
You're out of your mind if you think that's all SG would need in terms of city services.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:45 pm to BigJim
quote:
Actually, I am not sure why they would need more than ~$1 million. That is salary for a mayor and support staff and a police chief, plus rent and other basic operating supplies. WTF would the budget be for besides that? If all it needs to be is a shell for an ISD, why does it need a budget beyond bare bones?
The city budget is proposed to be around 60 million per year.
Google for the4 exact preliminary budget if you want to.
I think they can cover that fairly easily.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:45 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
You're out of your mind if you think that's all SG would need in terms of city services.
Turn on your sarcasm detector.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:27 pm to doubleb
If these areas become annexed into the city I think the City of Baton Rouge needs to build a new fire dept station along with staffing this area with more city police. You take the tax dollars you provide the services bottom line.
I think the people that lose ST George Fire protection need to petition to have their shot at being in the city if the ST George proposal fails. You will see how fast the city of Baton Rouge runs away from that idea due to the cost of services they would have to provide.
At the end of the day both sides unincorporated and city of Baton Rouge residence will pay more taxes with worse fire and police services.
This shows the citizens in East Baton Rouge Parish that we need a separate city of Baton Rouge government and a parish police jury to protect both interest.
I think the people that lose ST George Fire protection need to petition to have their shot at being in the city if the ST George proposal fails. You will see how fast the city of Baton Rouge runs away from that idea due to the cost of services they would have to provide.
At the end of the day both sides unincorporated and city of Baton Rouge residence will pay more taxes with worse fire and police services.
This shows the citizens in East Baton Rouge Parish that we need a separate city of Baton Rouge government and a parish police jury to protect both interest.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:45 pm to johnnyrocket
quote:Can you cite a single instance when the city of BR has refused to annex an area where a majority of the property owners have requested to be annexed?
You will see how fast the city of Baton Rouge runs away from that idea due to the cost of services they would have to provide.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:05 pm to LSURussian
Cool Breeze "LSURussian" it was in the 1970's.
They did not want to annex Donwood and River Oaks area due to a council person that lived in the area fought it even though the people wanted it.
Funny they annexed Florida Blvd and the commercial property though and screwed the homeowners in this area.
From that Eastside Fire Dept was started even though they have a Baton Rouge Fire Station less than 5 miles down the road. You can throw a baseball from Ponderosa Dr to the BR Fire Dept Property.
Bottom line is if BR needs the taxes from these areas right now. They annex these areas and ST George Fire Dept says no way you protect these areas. Someone has to provide a fire protection and more city police to patrol this area.
The people will be left without adequate fire protection in the Jefferson Hwy and Bluebonnet area. If St George does not pass they will probably look into coming into the city.
So now you got the same amount of tax dollars and you have to provide more services. Good going Baton Rouge.
They did not want to annex Donwood and River Oaks area due to a council person that lived in the area fought it even though the people wanted it.
Funny they annexed Florida Blvd and the commercial property though and screwed the homeowners in this area.
From that Eastside Fire Dept was started even though they have a Baton Rouge Fire Station less than 5 miles down the road. You can throw a baseball from Ponderosa Dr to the BR Fire Dept Property.
Bottom line is if BR needs the taxes from these areas right now. They annex these areas and ST George Fire Dept says no way you protect these areas. Someone has to provide a fire protection and more city police to patrol this area.
The people will be left without adequate fire protection in the Jefferson Hwy and Bluebonnet area. If St George does not pass they will probably look into coming into the city.
So now you got the same amount of tax dollars and you have to provide more services. Good going Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:14 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:quote:
You're out of your mind if you think that's all SG would need in terms of city services.
Turn on your sarcasm detector
But if people were willing to cooperate imagine this: all the same services would be provided by the same entities (so sheriff office for public safety, city of baton rouge for other expenses)- there would just be a cooperative endeavor agreement to transfer the money over (just like know). The only mandatory expenses are the ones I mentioned.
City of Baton Rouge keeps the money; St. George gets a bare-bones city they can take back to the legislature to try and get votes for the ISD.
I don't think they can do it now, too much poison in the well. But if all they really cared about was the ISD, they should have been much more thoughtful about how they approached incorporation.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:21 pm to BigJim
quote:I believe that it came out of the House Education Comm on a 10-6 vote to send to the full house - that is a long way from passage.
Bodi White's "give principals more power bill in EBR" just passed House Education.
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