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Frack Free Mandeville
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:03 pm
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In mid-April, word started spreading like wildfire among Louisiana residents: Helis Oil & Gas LLC wants to drill a well in search of oil and gas on a 960-acre tract of land about 30 miles from New Orleans, in the Mandeville area.
Helis plans to use hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, to extract oil and gas from the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale (PDF), which holds an estimated 7 billion barrels of oil beneath the Southern Hills aquifer, which extends from St.Tammany to beyond Baton Rouge and well into Mississippi.
On April 16, residents packed a meeting, expressing fear and outrage about the proposed drilling. Right away, they learned two things: firstly, that they’re up against Louisiana's strong laws protecting the oil and gas industry. And secondly, that there’s no time to waste.
On May 13, the Department of Natural Resources’ office of conservation, which regulates oil and gas drilling in Louisiana, will hold a hearing to consider issuing a unit permit — the first step in the permitting process.
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Retired Army Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, who recently formed the Green Army to help citizens fight back against industry in Louisiana, closed the Abita Springs meeting with a message of empowerment. He reminded the audience that Louisiana’s senators are in Washington doing what they can to limit the power of the EPA and weaken the Clean Air and Water Act.
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Do any of these people realize how the indirectly O&G industry benefits them and how exploration on the northshore would directly benefit them?
And FWIW, I don't think the TMS works, especially in this area.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 1:04 pm
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:06 pm to cwill
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Retired Army Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, who recently formed the Green Army to help citizens fight back against industry in Louisiana
I wonder how long it will take him to appoint Nagan his chief adviser.
They can block it. Doesn't matter.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:10 pm to cwill
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Frack Free Mandeville
at the thread title. There's a small community (7500 people) around here that they call Nuclear Free Sebastopol.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:10 pm to cwill
Look at all those Republicans
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:11 pm to cwill
I have a good recommendation as a drilling site on 70 acres in Folsom if Mandeville is so dead set against accessing the Tuscaloosa Shale.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:14 pm to GumboPot
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I have a good recommendation as a drilling site on 70 acres in Folsom if Mandeville is so dead set against accessing the Tuscaloosa Shale.
Same here. Approximately where are you near Folsom?
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:18 pm to GumboPot
Not in my backyard brah
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:19 pm to cwill
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how exploration on the northshore would directly benefit them?
How would it?
Money to landowners (New Orleans residents);
Money to New Orleans O&G company;
Money (some) to Parish Govt;
Money to State;
A handful of jobs (probably brought in from outside, not residents).
What am I missing?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:23 pm to USMCTiger03
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Money to landowners (New Orleans residents);
Not all of us.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:23 pm to USMCTiger03
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Money (some) to Parish Govt;
Ask Desoto Parish how oil/gas exploration has benefited it.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:25 pm to cwill
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Do any of these people realize how the indirectly O&G industry benefits them and how exploration on the northshore would directly benefit them?
If they don't own any property besides the lot their house sits on it won't directly benefit them, and the Northshore is better off economically than anyplace else in the state. The schools are already well-funded and the tax base is fine. Maybe they figure the impact on their quality of life wouldn't be worth whatever indirect economic benefit would result. There's more to life than money, especially if you're already comfortably fixed.
Leaving aside the fracking issue, there's the matter of trucks running through the area 24/7, maybe a big, noisy rig located a few hundred yards from your house, also running 24/7, etc.
Like I said, the only real estate most of these people own is the lot their house sits on, and they probably don't own the mineral rights to that. An oil boom on the Northshore won't benefit most of them and potentially comes with a lot of negatives for the average Northshore citizen. Just because you don't like their response to this doesn't mean it isn't a rational one based on their circumstances.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:26 pm to USMCTiger03
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How would it?
Money to landowners (New Orleans residents);
Money to New Orleans O&G company;
Money (some) to Parish Govt;
Money to State;
A handful of jobs (probably brought in from outside, not residents).
What am I missing?
If a shale trend were to kick off on the NS then hotels would fill up, restaurants would boom, grocery stores, local walmart/target, etc.
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Money to landowners (New Orleans residents);
No one who lives on the NS owns the land/minerals on the NS???
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:26 pm to cwill
Same people who hated Obama during the moratorium. The people are idiots on that side of the parish.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:27 pm to cwill
Judging by the photos...keeping Mandeville frack free won't be difficult. Would hit none of them. 
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:28 pm to stevengtiger
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Ask Desoto Parish how oil/gas exploration has benefited it.
Boom and bust, Very unstable source of funding.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:30 pm to Jim Rockford
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Maybe they figure the impact on their quality of life wouldn't be worth whatever indirect economic benefit would result.
No - it's a NIMBY. They all benefit significantly from the O&G industry, but historically almost none of that exploration has occurred on the NS.
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ike I said, the only real estate most of these people own is the lot their house sits on, and they probably don't own the mineral rights to that.
I would be over 90% own the mineral rights under there property. In LA mineral rights can only be separated from the surface for 10 years unless there is active production/exploration that interrupts the prescriptive period. Considering there hasn't been any significant prod/expl on the NS, most own their minerals.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:31 pm to waiting4saturday
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Same people who hated Obama during the moratorium. The people are idiots on that side of the parish.
These are the same folks who travel that God-forsaken Causeway everyday to work in "The City."
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:33 pm to Jim Rockford
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Ask Desoto Parish how oil/gas exploration has benefited it.
Boom and bust, Very unstable source of funding.
In what way?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:34 pm to chillygentilly
quote:A person could go snow blind staring at all those faces....
Look at all those Republicans
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:35 pm to Jim Rockford
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Maybe they figure the impact on their quality of life wouldn't be worth whatever indirect economic benefit would result.
The quality of life in that area has been deteriorating since white folks began fleeing NOLA in the 1970's, and had gotten worse since Katrina.
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