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CPM's Quotes in The Advocate

Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:22 pm
He is quoted as saying that, in his opinion, the new ball next yr won't have that much effect & he has plans on his desk to bring in the fences of The Box but won't do so until the fences in Omaha are brought in as well.FWIW, Skip said basically the same thing last mth, i.e. the new balls won't make that much of a difference and the fences in Omaha are not fit for college baseball.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85054 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:27 pm to
There are a few issues here.

First, no one expects the ball to bring back 2009-type numbers. But it will have an effect in that pitchers won't be as effective.

Second, college baseball has different types of hitters and pitchers compared to just 5 years ago. What has happened is that scouts have adjusted and are pulling more of the best hitters from high school since that has become much easier to evaluate. Pitching is just the opposite. It's tougher for scouts and some of the best HS pitchers are ending up in college. So not only is the equipment forcing things one way, the talent on the field is also.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:29 pm to
He also said he wants the NCAA to approve using the major league ball with the livelier core.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64752 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:45 pm to
well regardless of what mainieri thinks, the laws of physics disagree with him. lower seams means less drag. less drag means balls will travel further.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:47 pm to
Less drag also means pitchers will gain some speed on their fastballs.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20222 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:50 pm to
It will have some effect but it won't be that drastic. I don't see scoring increasing all that much.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:51 pm to
well um he's um wrong.

unless he wants to argue with science.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:52 pm to
if brought in the fences we could build enclosed bullpens (hell we could do it now but thats beside the point).


it would really please ronnie rantz
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

well regardless of what mainieri thinks, the laws of physics disagree with him. lower seams means less drag. less drag means balls will travel further.


he said it won't have that much effect....not that it will have zero effect
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Less drag also means pitchers will gain some speed on their fastballs.



not really. the exit speeds from the pitcher and off the bat wont have hardly any effect. maybe the most minuscule amount.


the effect will be on throwing breaking pitches and the drag on balls hit into the outfield.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76678 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

well um he's um wrong.

unless he wants to argue with science.


LSU would have hit three or four home runs in the UCLA loss if they had those baseballs. That 10-20 feet for well-hit fly balls may have been the difference between another National Championship and 2-n-BBQ.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

he said it won't have that much effect....not that it will have zero effect



well its about 20 feet on a fly ball. he and I have different views on the word "much" then.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85054 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:55 pm to
Bringing in the fences mean more HRs, sure. But it also means fewer singles doubles and triples with less ground for OFs to cover.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:59 pm to
our fences arent even big. i guess he may have to but man our park really doesnt need to be smaller.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85054 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:02 pm to
The extra distance comes from the ball being able to rotate at a faster speed.

Some people might be confused by what "drag" means here. It's not that the ball is smoother so it travels through the air cleaner per se. It's that the ball can hold its backspin (angular velocity) much easier. That spin creates pressure underneath the ball which means it keeps its height for longer resulting in longer distance. (Think of a soccer ball's english when kicked with side spin. This is due to pressure on one side of the ball)
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

t's not that the ball is smoother so it travels through the air cleaner per se.


quote:

It's that the ball can hold its backspin (angular velocity) much easier. That spin creates pressure underneath the ball which means it keeps its height for longer resulting in longer distance.


why cant it be both?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19304 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:07 pm to
So Skip Bertman does not know what he's talking about, either? For CPM to consider bringing in the fences, he has to be fairly certain the changes won't amount to much. They are not saying that there will be no change: in Skip's exact words: "meh" . For someone who laughingly says he studies RPI's every two hrs, I feel certain he's done his research with this, too.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85054 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:07 pm to
If two baseball have the same angular velocity and they accelerate negatively at the same rate, but their seams are only different by .1 mm, you're talking maybe 1 or 2 feet difference over 300 feet of flight.

It's the ability of the ball to hold that backspin and the pressure that creates that really affects the distance
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 2:09 pm
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

So Skip Bertman does not know what he's talking about, either?


that's correct. unless you think he actually believes 15-20 feet = meh.


Hell McMullen has hit 2 balls up to the wall in the last 2 games. Chinea too i believe in the Ole miss series (forget which game).

thats 3 balls in the last several games that 100% would have been out. There is no arguing that.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted by SanFranTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2003
4899 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:12 pm to
Will this still prevent us from effectively bunting when called for? LOL
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