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Unbreakable MLB Records
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:39 pm
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Career complete games probably takes the cake for me as far as records that will clearly never be broken.
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The use of pitcher has clearly changed over the years. A guy today hits 100 pitches and he is done. That obviously influenced the complete games as it does innings pitched.
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A reduction in the innings also means a reduction in strikeouts. CC Sabathia has already played for 13 seasons, is 33 years old, and is not even halfway to Nolan Ryan’s strikeout record.
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With the increasing bullpen emphasis, pitcher wins also matter much less in today’s game. When guys were throwing a complete game in 95% of their starts though, they got a lot more decisions.
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It also meant that they got many more losses, which is why Cy Young’s loss record will probably never be broken either. Ironically, to lose this many games means not that the pitcher has to be bad, but has to be good enough to hang around so long he can build up the loss tally.
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Of course if Young’s loss record is broken, he will no doubt hold on to his wins record much longer.
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Another change in pitchers has been the increase of the number of runs scored. It is unlikely we will ever see another pitcher with a sub-1 ERA over a whole season. Current pitchers are not necessarily less dominant, though, if we look at ERA+, which compares each ERA to the league average of the year many recent pitchers are in line with the historic seasons of Keefe and Leonard.
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Perhaps it’s not a real record category, but Johnny Vander Meer’s feat of throwing two consecutive no-hitters will be tough to beat. Unlike most of the other records, some which take decades to accomplish, this one only takes 18 innings. So I could potentially see someone tying this at some point, but three in a row? Good luck.
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On to offense, we find Dimaggio’s famed 56-game hit streak. Unlike the pitchers, there has not been a drastic change in how offensive players are used. So it may take a long time, but this one isn’t insurmountable.
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Ichiro arrived in the US at age 27 and stole a career-high 56 bags during his rookie year. Had he started in MLB at age 21 and stole 56 every season until he turned 27, that would bring his current total to one more than Tim Raines for fourth all-time.
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Derek Jeter has played at least 145 games in 15 of his 19 seasons. If he continued to hit his career mark of .312 and didn’t miss another game, he would need five more years to break Rose’s record. It’s a safe bet this one will stand for a while.
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Another one that would take about five years under optimal conditions to break would be Hank Aaron’s career record for most total bases. A-Rod is doubtful to reach that. Jeter won’t make it either. Albert Pujols, at 34, is about seven great years away.
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One you don’t hear every day is Chief Wilson’s record of 36 triples in a season, which he did in 1912. Only Granderson and Lance Johnson have more than 20 triples in the past 20 seasons.
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It would be stretch for Pujols to play that long, but not so much for Cal Ripken, Jr. who as you know played every game for 16 seasons. Another cool fact someone mentioned: Japanese player Tomoaki Kanemoto did not miss an at-bat or an inning on defense for ten years.
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Finally, we’ve got the Cubs’ drought of 105 years without a World Series. If Epstein can’t pull it off, it may take 200 years.
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You can hear Doc talk about his game: https://youtu.be/_vUhSYLRw14
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:41 pm to hawgfaninc
most of that shite will never be broken. it's just a different game today
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:44 pm to hawgfaninc
had to bring up the 105 years huh....
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Billy Hamilton
not that one
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:54 pm to hawgfaninc
no hitters under LSD
man baseball has changed
man baseball has changed
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:06 pm to RonFNSwanson
This thread has Peej written all over it.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:14 pm to hawgfaninc
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Source: Probably some guy in an alley
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:20 pm to RonFNSwanson
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baseball has changed
That's immediately recognizable when you see people being compared to someone with the name Old Hoss Radbourn. That sounds like a character from a John Wayne western.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:23 pm to Rickety Cricket
they left off manager ejections.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:36 pm to Srbtiger06
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This thread has Peej written all over it.
Hank Aarons total bases will NOT be broken as far as modern day records.... All those pitching ones are from the 1800's... ALSO NOBODY will touch Nolan Ryans strikeout record....
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:57 pm to h0bnail
not a single pitching record outside of back to back no-nos will ever be touched.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:05 pm to hawgfaninc
Old Hoss Raybourn was a boss.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:05 pm to Rickety Cricket
Bob "Death To Flying Things" Ferguson
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:10 pm to hawgfaninc
Highest career batting average set by Ty Cobb. .366
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:35 pm to hawgfaninc
Nolan Ryan's career walks record is even more untouchable than his strikeout record.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:41 pm to hawgfaninc
Sure wouldn't mind seeing Hendersons name knocked off the top.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:53 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Old Hoss Radbourn
Giving the finger to the camera in the 1886 Opening Day photo. (far left)
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:59 pm to okietiger
"Hoss" Radbourne was about 5' 9" and 160 pounds.
Those dead ball era pitching records need to be thrown out. They were throwing a rolled-up pair of socks.
Those dead ball era pitching records need to be thrown out. They were throwing a rolled-up pair of socks.
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