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How Much Restraining Authority Does Your Typical Mall Cop Have?

Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Wes B
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Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:44 pm
Mall cop @ Cortana has been trailing me for the past 10 minutes.

What stopping authority do these guys have?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:45 pm to
Are you wearing a flat bill?
Posted by CrimsonFanSince94
Hell itself
Member since Mar 2012
1720 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:45 pm to
What are you doing?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:45 pm to
You should stop, let him pass, and then start following him.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:46 pm to
how about leave the mall
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32713 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:48 pm to
i think the extent of his power lies near if he tells you to leave and you don't then you are trespassing at which point he can call the real police.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:48 pm to
Probably a lot less than he thinks he does.
Posted by Chappy
G-Town
Member since Jul 2007
3407 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:51 pm to
if you commit a theft he has the right to detain you

if you commit a felony he has the right to detain you, a "citizen's arrest", the same as any citizen
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

if you commit a theft he has the right to detain you

if you commit a felony he has the right to detain you, a "citizen's arrest", the same as any citizen
yea i believe that is kidnapping in LA.
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14658 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:54 pm to
La. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 215 Detention and arrest of shoplifters
quote:

A.(1) A peace officer, merchant, or a specifically authorized employee or agent of a merchant, may use reasonable force to detain a person for questioning on the merchant's premises, for a length of time, not to exceed sixty minutes, unless it is reasonable under the circumstances that the person be detained longer, when he has reasonable cause to believe that the person has committed a theft of goods held for sale by the merchant, regardless of the actual value of the goods. The merchant or his employee or agent may also detain such a person for arrest by a peace officer. The detention shall not constitute an arrest.

(2) A peace officer may, without a warrant, arrest a person when he has reasonable grounds to believe the person has committed a theft of goods held for sale by a merchant, regardless of the actual value of the goods. A complaint made to a peace officer by a merchant or a merchant's employee or agent shall constitute reasonable cause for the officer making the arrest.

This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14658 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

CarRamrod


Cops knowing the law
Posted by Chappy
G-Town
Member since Jul 2007
3407 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

yea i believe that is kidnapping in LA.


uh, no

see above post
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76527 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

quote:

CarRamrod
Cops knowing the law



Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142026 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

A.(1) A peace officer, merchant, or a specifically authorized employee or agent of a merchant, may use reasonable force to detain a person for questioning on the merchant's premises, for a length of time, not to exceed sixty minutes, unless it is reasonable under the circumstances that the person be detained longer, when he has reasonable cause to believe that the person has committed a theft of goods held for sale by the merchant, regardless of the actual value of the goods. The merchant or his employee or agent may also detain such a person for arrest by a peace officer.


At a grocery store in MS I once saw employees drag a guy into the office

Reasonable?
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14658 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Reasonable?



Facts and circumstances, brah
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32713 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

At a grocery store in MS I once saw employees drag a guy into the office


i think those are written to protect the security guards from getting arrested for assaulting thieves.

he can attempt to detain you, but you are not under arrest and can leave. Thats how i read it at least.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142026 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Facts and circumstances, brah
All I recall is that the guy was yelling but not fighting back, and the people dragging him were apparently civilians

Never knew the backstory
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Cops knowing the law

you think im a cop.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24308 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Are you wearing a flat bill?


My first thought. Haha
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:09 pm to
15 years ago, people were fricked up many times tring to steal and resist stoppage at a store I used to work.
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