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Rotoworld Saints Draft Need Analysis

Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:22 am
Posted by blueslover
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:22 am
No. 1 Team Need: Cornerback
Silva's analysis
Keenan Lewis emerged as a borderline shutdown corner in his first season with the Saints, but 32-year-old bookend Jabari Greer was a cap casualty, and 2010 first-rounder Patrick Robinson is a bust. Despite the addition of short-term fix Champ Bailey, cornerback could easily be GM Mickey Loomis' first-round target. Bailey turns 36 in two months. Defensive boss Rob Ryan utilizes press-man concepts in the back end, so expect New Orleans to target a big, physical corner in the draft.

Norris' options
First day option: Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State - Gilbert did not play a lot of press coverage last year, with only 22 percent of his snaps qualifying according to Greg Peshek. With that said, I bet many will look at GIlbert’s 6’0/202 lbs frame and 33 1/8” arms and see a prospect who can thrive in press. The corner struggles most when mirroring breaking routes, allowing some separation due to tightness. At the college level Gilbert could catch up, the question is if that will translate in the NFL. Gilbert certainly has ball skills, which helps tremendously.

Second day possibility: Pierre Desir, Lindenwood - Desir also played some off coverage, and looked capable, but he best projects in a press scheme. This issue is, Desir was not tested in many of these situations. The experienced corner understands how to stick close to his assignment, obtain vision, and attempt to disrupt the catch. He is willing to be physical within five yards.

Third day flier: Keith McGill, Utah - McGill was miscast while at Utah, as they asked him to line up in off coverage far too often. Some are even projecting a move to safety for McGill, but I really liked what I saw when he was able to press. As long as he does not lose off the snap, McGill can battle with receivers on the edge.


No. 2 Team Need: Outside Linebacker
Silva's analysis
Junior Galette is a steal on his $1.4 million salary, but the Saints are thin behind him. Returning from last June's ACL tear, Victor Butler can only be viewed as a wild card. Parys Haralson is a run-stopping role player. Another impact outside rusher could give Ryan's unit a big spark.

Norris' options
First day option: Kony Ealy, Missouri - Ealy is difficult to figure out, and I don’t think his production matches the tape. Ealy lined up from a variety of spots and was possibly most successful when inside. However, he is frequently being projected on the edge, either in a three point stance or standing up. From a 3-cone perspective, which is one of two Combine tests I think best project future success, this makes sense. Ealy, from a testing perspective, can move extremely well for someone his size. My biggest issues are with his power on first contact and a lack of consistent leg drive that follows. He worked around blockers more than through them.

Second day possibility: Scott Crichton, Oregon State - Evan suggested an impact edge rusher. That could be Crichton, but do not expect him to do other things associated with “3-4 OLBs” like drop into coverage. Rob Ryan would understand this, however, and put Crichton in a position to rush one on one from the outside. Crichton converts speed to power thanks to powerful hands and a high motor.

Third day flier: James Gayle, Virginia Tech - Gayle’s flashes come when winning on first contact due to a jolt of power. He lacks counter athleticism and balance, but as a third day pick with a fairly high success rate (when put into perspective), he is worthy of a fifth-round pick.


No. 3 Team Need: Center
Silva's analysis
The Saints declined to re-sign incumbent C Brian De La Puente despite minimal interest elsewhere, suggesting coach Sean Payton was looking forward to moving on from the three-year starter. New Orleans should feel good about the rest of its line with Terron Armstead and Zach Strief back at tackle, and Ben Grubbs teaming with Jahri Evans at guard. Center is a pretty glaring weak spot. 2013 UDFA Tim Lelito would start there if the season began today.

Norris' options
First day option: Marcus Martin, USC - Teams will be deciding between Martin and Weston Richburg as the top centers. I project the Saints preferring Martin due to his larger experience at guard, which would allow the team to possibly move him off the anchor spot in 2015 if one of the two starters departs. Martin can be extremely powerful, especially when finishing plays after generating initial movement or locating defenders at the second level.

Second day possibility: After Martin and Weston Richburg, I do not see a second day center in this class.

Third day flier: Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma - Ikard is a move center and will absolutely lose on occasion against powerful interior defensive linemen when asked to occupy them one on one. But he is very agile for his size, so if used properly, Ikard could seal reach blocks, help on double teams, and get to the second level to be a roadblock.
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---ruh roh, no WRs
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 8:24 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:37 am to
I agree with the first two, but not the third. I was not in the "we need an OLB" camp, but you and ChadBoi have shown me how wrong I was. This is quite spot on with its analysis though, especially Silva's CB write up.

ETA: I think the staff believe in Lelito, and I am behind them with it. I do think addressing Center is important, but it's 5th on my list behind CB, ILB, OLB, WR.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 8:39 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166247 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:41 am to
I'd go:

No. 1 Outside Linebacker
No. 2 Wide Receiver
No. 3 Cornerback
No. 4 Interior OL (Guard)
No. 5 Interior Linebacker
No. 6 Center
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77582 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:46 am to
WR has to be up there.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:57 am to
I personally think that's stupid.

should be:

1.WR
2.Corner
3.OLB (I think these people forget about or underestimate Butler)
4.Center
5.A sniper to take out Jeff Duncan
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:02 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:05 am to
Butler is still an unknown. We brought him in last year hoping that the flashes he had shown would be real, but he was still somewhat of an unknown then. With the injury, that makes him an even greater one. Yes we are hopeful and expect him to be a solid OLB, but to say he's underestimated is probably not accurate.

As for ranking positions of need, I don't think you are far off. I do think ILB is one though, because we have a bunch of slowness their at the moment. I still believe CB is our greatest need area, but the rest I kind of shuffle around and then put Center 5th
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22128 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Keenan Lewis emerged as a borderline shutdown corner in his first season with the Saints


Don't tell Falcons fans that. They think he's "meh". Even the radio hosts here (who claim to watch soooooo much football) say he's "just a guy"

Actually...post this link on the Falcons boards

truthfully they could go 3-4 ways in round 1 and it wouldn't bother me
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:09 am
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:13 am to
At WR we have an aging Colston, an up-and-comer in Stills, and an incosistent returning from injury speedster in Morgan. We add Graham to this mix, who still isn't signed long term, and it's very patch work. We have to get Brees some elite talent for the last years of his elite status as a QB. We will be a winning football team with the above cast, but the question is can we get past an elite talent D without elite talent on O? I really hope a top WR falls to us in the 1st. That being said, if one isn't there take BPA at CB/LB and pray that a good WR is there in the 2nd.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:15 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:19 am to
I think I'd put ILB ahead of OLB due to the cap implications. It is an actual weakness for us and we could free up $3 million by cutting hawthorne for 2015 or $4 million for Lofton

I still think WR is a much greater need than CB too.

Colston is solid and Stills is gonna be a good one. Graham is a monster.

The problem is that Colston and Graham's style of play leads to injury. We need some kind of depth. I want to have 5 legit threats for receiver. Morgan is coming off injury and Meachem is washed up. I would love for Stills to not have to be our deep threat. We've done best when we've had 2-3 speedsters.

Remember the Denver game in 2012? Who were our wide receivers by the end of that game?

We should have the best offense in the NFL. Every player should be a legit weapon like Denver
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:20 am to
quote:

pray that a good WR is there in the 2nd


If Blues' assessments are right, this will be the case. It seems there are many WR's this year, so it's better to wait till the 2nd to address the position. I would have no issue with taking one in the 1st
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