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FFP is a joke

Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:01 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:01 am
Regardless of what UEFA does with City and PSG (not likely very much), the entire concept of FFP is ridiculous. It's not about making the sport more competitive, it's a protectionist move to prevent non traditional clubs from being threatened. Using the EPL as an example, the traditional top 4 of ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs has been pushed to 6 with City and Chelsea coming into money recently so now there are 2 clubs that are for sure not getting UCL spots and if there's an Everton on any given year that number is pushed to 3. Those clubs don't like being marginalized (even though it's great for fans and has led to amazing seasons 2 of the last 3 years) and top clubs in other countries are worried it could happen to them. FFP will make the sport less exciting and give fans less hope that they too can become a top club because unlike in days gone by, today you HAVE to spend a ton of money to win at the highest levels and if your team is prohibited from deficit spending while they build their brand there is no hope for them to ever get there.

/rant
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:05 am to
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Using the EPL as an example, the traditional top 4 of ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs


One of these things is not like the others.
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:08 am to
Lol @ Chelsea being a top club pre-Abramovich. Go check the record books.

Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:09 am to
Depends on what your definition of traditional is. If we're talking traditional as the last decade, you're right. I don't know if there were 4 before then.
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:15 am to
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Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:17 am to
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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:19 am to
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what days gone by?


Back in the day you could at least hope for a Brian Clough or some other great manager to come in and build you up. Sure you were at a disadvantage but money didn't play the role it plays today.

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But to win or be at the top of the league Liverpool, Arsenal, and Everton


Liverpool has been spending a lot the last few years and neither Everton nor Arsenal have seriously challenged for the league title lately.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 9:23 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:27 am to
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There was no big 4 term term before this so the traditional big 4 means including Chelsea.


You can argue semantics about there being a big 4 before or not I guess but in no way was Chelsea a major club pre-Abramovich. They just weren't. And Spurs were unquestionably the 2nd biggest club in London up until that time as well.
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:35 am to

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Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:03 am to
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And Spurs were unquestionably the 2nd biggest club in London up until that time as well.


On what measure?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:08 am to
The board will be meeting this week.

City still had a 52 million quid loss this year. Some of it won't count against them for putting into youth academy infrastructure(good on them)

But they are clearly trying to circumvent the rules by adding extra seats that won't be used.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:10 am to
Winning
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:56 am to
They have two league titles in their history and no European success. Chelsea had easily surpassed Tottenham before Abramovich bought the club and were already competing in Europe pretty regularly.
Posted by S
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:04 am to
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traditional top 4


quote:

Spurs


Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:36 am to
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Regardless of what UEFA does with City and PSG (not likely very much), the entire concept of FFP is ridiculous. It's not about making the sport more competitive, it's a protectionist move to prevent non traditional clubs from being threatened. Using the EPL as an example, the traditional top 4 of ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs has been pushed to 6 with City and Chelsea coming into money recently so now there are 2 clubs that are for sure not getting UCL spots and if there's an Everton on any given year that number is pushed to 3. Those clubs don't like being marginalized (even though it's great for fans and has led to amazing seasons 2 of the last 3 years) and top clubs in other countries are worried it could happen to them. FFP will make the sport less exciting and give fans less hope that they too can become a top club because unlike in days gone by, today you HAVE to spend a ton of money to win at the highest levels and if your team is prohibited from deficit spending while they build their brand there is no hope for them to ever get there.

/rant

THIS
+1
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:42 am to
aren't you a city fan?
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:46 am to
me?
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:47 am to
yes
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:52 am to
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Using the EPL as an example, the traditional top 4 of ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs

This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 11:52 am
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