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Powerful forces all lining up to stop St. George

Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:55 am
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We have a Senator Nevers(D) from Bogalusa who wants to put a two year moratorium on ALL NEW INCORPORATIONS in Louisiana. The Louisiana Municipal Association is on his side. The moratorium if passed would go back in time and start on January 1, 2014.

Representative James of EBR parish wants to pass a bill allowing all voters in the affected parish to vote on incorporation and not just those in the proposed municipality as is the law now.

Representative Price(D)of Gonzales wants to pass a bill limiting the time(180 days)that municipal proponents have to collect signatures for their petition. Currently there is no time limit.

With Mayor Holden and the city actively fighting SG along with Councilman Delgado, it seems the SG folks have their work cut out for them as Democrats in the state legislature try and add on additional road blocks.
Posted by SG_Geaux
1 Post
Member since Aug 2004
77929 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:00 am to
All so they can keep robbing the people of SG
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35897 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:06 am to
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All so they can keep robbing the people of SG


They sure do seem to be worried about something.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:10 am to
I'm a resident of St. George and I oppose incorporation. It's chickenshit greed. It's wanting to enjoy the benefits of Baton Rouge... its jobs, its collegiate opportunities, its infrastructure, etc... without having to pay for it.


Posted by Bengalbadguy
BR
Member since Jan 2009
1537 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:11 am to
Don't forget the great school system they enjoy.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19871 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:15 am to
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without having to pay for it.


since EBR is so worried about the huge loss of tax money, it seems they are the ones who want to enjoy the perks without paying for it
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35897 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:18 am to
I feel much better now with you on Russian's side.

FWIW, "the collegiate opportunities" are not funded or run by the City of Baton Rouge and has nothing to do with the discussion.

Now discussing the benefits of the City of Baton Rouge and what a city the size of BR (230K people)brings to the table is fine.

But don't come here and tell me I haven't paid for part of it because it appears that without the revenues and taxes collected in SG and other non incorporated areas of EBR Parish, the whole thing might fall apart.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126961 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:23 am to
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because it appears that without the revenues and taxes collected in SG
Are you STILL trying to claim all of the sales taxes collected at the Mall of Louisiana, Perkins Rowe and Siegen Market Place are paid by people who live in St George?

That would be the only way to interpret anyone's posts who claim BR depends on St George's taxes.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30163 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:23 am to
quote:

I'm a resident of St. George and I oppose incorporation. It's chickenshit greed. It's wanting to enjoy the benefits of Baton Rouge... its jobs, its collegiate opportunities, its infrastructure, etc... without having to pay for it.


Not as up to date as I should be on this subject, but if I recall correctly, isn't the opposite true? Aren't they wanting to separate themselves because they feel BR is getting more benefit from SG tax dollars than SG is?

Seems like if it was greed, BR being staunchly opposed to it would tell me that BR is in fact the greedy party in all of this.
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:27 am to
Why doesn't Baton Rouge incorporate areas of St. George and end this that way?

Because then we would elect members of the city council that would change the way they have been running this city.

They have a demographic edge right now in how voting goes and they don't want to change that.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164042 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:29 am to
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I'm a resident of St. George

St George is in New Orleans?
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14330 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:30 am to
You guys had Jim Talbot in front of the Walmart on Coursey Saturday morning - bringing out the heavy hitters?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126961 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:30 am to
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Why doesn't Baton Rouge incorporate areas of St. George and end this that way?

Because then we would elect members of the city council that would change the way they have been running this city.
St George voters already vote for members of the city-parish council and mayor president. WTF are you talking about???
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12294 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

I'm a resident of St. George and I oppose incorporation. It's chickenshit greed. It's wanting to enjoy the benefits of Baton Rouge... its jobs, its collegiate opportunities, its infrastructure, etc... without having to pay for it.


I agree.. Take out the mall, Perkins Rowe and few other areas they will not keep and st George is on equal footing.

You seem to be one the most mobile people around.. Since you've been on this board, how many times have you moved?
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 9:33 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78357 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:31 am to
I live in the 70809 and I don't feel robbed. To the contrary, I am extremely happy with the level of services I receive, particularly the three schools my kids are in.

Though I would agree with the OP-it appears that the fix is in. I ALWAYS favor the Democratic process and letting the chips fall where they may. Even if it hurts me. The people should decide.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35897 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:31 am to
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Are you STILL trying to claim all of the sales taxes collected at the Mall of Louisiana, Perkins Rowe and Siegen Market Place are paid by people who live in St George? That would be the only way to interpret anyone's posts who claim BR depends on St George's taxes


No, but I am maintaining that businesses domiciled outside of BR pay fees, collect taxes, and are a key player in the finances of EBR Parish and the City of Baton Rouge.

I stand by what I posted, we all know sales taxes collected can be from anywhere even from people who live in a foreign country.

I realize that it works both ways. Baton Rougeans spend money in SG and SGeans spend money in BR.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35897 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:32 am to
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u guys had Jim Talbot in front of the Walmart on Coursey Saturday morning - bringing out the heavy hitters?


At least Talbot doesn't live in Bogalusa or Gonsalez.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35897 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:35 am to
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The people should decide


Thank you sir, I feel the same way.

Changing the laws to block people who are only trying to work within the system as it now stands is exactly what big govt. types do.

Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:39 am to
A major case of back scratching going on with the author of the bill being from as far away from BR/SG as he is, and the fact that he resides in a parish of only a few thousand residents in total.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14330 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:42 am to
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At least Talbot doesn't live in Bogalusa or Gonsalez.
Hope you not implying that I live in of those cities - been a resident of LAWO since 1990.
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