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The beauty of political correctness
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:33 am
I am an ardent opponent to the PC movement, however I can't help but marvel at what an elegant system it is for stifling dissent and ensuring that particular beliefs have an advantage. The whole concept uses implied social pressure to influence (control?) how people think about things. Aside from the damage I believe it is doing I can't help but think it is brilliant.
Every one of you has held back on saying something because you were worried about it not being politically correct. It is like an unseen hand.
I will also give a tip of the hat to the liberals / progressives: They run rings around conservatives and libertarians when it comes to controlling the narrative. At some point in the past, either intentionally or accidentally, they recognized the importance of controlling the message put out in the media and in the education system. This continues to help their cause to this day and presents a significant impediment to their opponents.
Every one of you has held back on saying something because you were worried about it not being politically correct. It is like an unseen hand.
I will also give a tip of the hat to the liberals / progressives: They run rings around conservatives and libertarians when it comes to controlling the narrative. At some point in the past, either intentionally or accidentally, they recognized the importance of controlling the message put out in the media and in the education system. This continues to help their cause to this day and presents a significant impediment to their opponents.
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:36 am to weagle99
I think they've mastered the art of creating perceived victimhood and they use it to their advantage.
Without victims, there is no Liberalism.
Without victims, there is no Liberalism.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:40 am to weagle99
quote:Like most liberal ideas, it's based on emotion.
he beauty of political correctness
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:42 am to weagle99
quote:
The whole concept uses implied social pressure to influence (control?) how people think about things.
quote:It really takes honesty out of the equation. "Damage" is the key word in your sentence here.
Aside from the damage I believe it is doing I can't help but think it is brilliant.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:43 am to upgrayedd
Without racists there would be no racism. If their were no political correctness, pc would not be a term.
If people were more respectful of others and didn't spout racist, sexist etc ideas, there would be no need for pc ness. of course pc goes overboard sometimes, I admit but get rid of the cause.
If people were more respectful of others and didn't spout racist, sexist etc ideas, there would be no need for pc ness. of course pc goes overboard sometimes, I admit but get rid of the cause.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:43 am to weagle99
quote:
At some point in the past, either intentionally or accidentally, they recognized the importance of controlling the message put out in the media and in the education system.
It was definitely intentional. I believe the leader of the American socialist party outlined their intent to control the media and educational system way back in the 20's. His prediction, "in 100 years the U.S. will be a socialist country and no one will know how it happened,"
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:46 am to dante
PC can definitely go way way waaaayyyy over the top, but mostly those are incidents we hear about because they are so crazy. The intersexual bathrooms at colleges type of stuff.
But there is another side IMO. In a different sense it has made us more sensitive to others feelings. I would never call a person with Downs Syndrome a "Stupid Retard" or someone walking with a walker a "Cripple" and of course we have the N-Word (and others like it). Those things are said anymore and IMO that is a good thing and maybe, just partially, that is because of the PC movement.
But there is another side IMO. In a different sense it has made us more sensitive to others feelings. I would never call a person with Downs Syndrome a "Stupid Retard" or someone walking with a walker a "Cripple" and of course we have the N-Word (and others like it). Those things are said anymore and IMO that is a good thing and maybe, just partially, that is because of the PC movement.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:46 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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If people were more respectful of others and didn't spout racist, sexist etc ideas, there would be no need for pc ness.
PC pretty much exists to expand the things brought under the umbrella you describe. It's gotten to the point that if an alien landed here and via observation of what gets labeled "racism" tried to determine the definition of the term, he'd be flummoxed.
And, this expansion serves a purpose. You want your bogeyman to be as common as possible. How else to scare people with it!!!
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:47 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
Without racists there would be no racism. If their were no political correctness, pc would not be a term.
If people were more respectful of others and didn't spout racist, sexist etc ideas, there would be no need for pc ness. of course pc goes overboard sometimes, I admit but get rid of the cause.
Is there racism in this country? Yes.
Is there a prevailing idea that only one group of people can be racist? Yes.
This is the "racism" that is most prevelant in our country today.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:51 am to Eurocat
quote:I understand this one.
I would never call a person with Downs Syndrome a "Stupid Retard
quote:Don't understand this one. "Cripple" is only considered "derogatory" because we've taught people to be offended by accurate descriptions.
walking with a walker a "Cripple"
This of course goes back to the Down's kid. "Stupid Retard" is intentionally insulting. "Retarded" though would not be.
Changing what you call a thing doesn't change the thing. It merely changes the word that will now get the negative connotation. Cmon. Have you ever seen someone use the word "special" to demonstrate stupidity? I have. Basically, since we started calling all the kids with significant problems "special", if you want to call a normal dude stupid, you can say he's "special" in an insulting tone.
PC is just fricking dumb for this reason. The original terms for substandard intelligence or an inability to walk were not created to be insulting. They became insutling because of what they described.
Start calling cripples "purple people" and 10 years from now, that phrase will be an insult also.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:53 am to SettleDown
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The beauty of political correctness
The beauty of a pile of dog shite is that you can put it in a paper sack in front of someone's door and then light it on fire.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:54 am to Eurocat
There is nothing wrong with calling a crippled person.....crippled. There is nothing wrong with referring to someone as retarded IF they fit that description. What is wrong with black or negro instead of African-American? A midget is a midget....not vertically challenged. A garbage man is not a "waste engineer".
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:56 am to weagle99
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Every one of you has held back on saying something because you were worried about it not being politically correct.
Not me.
True story. I used to make Xmas cards for family and friends with a theme using my 3 dogs as models. One was 'Jihad', one was 'the Supreme Court' and one was 'Gangsta Rap.' I would take the photos and text to Kinko's and they would make color prints.
When I brought my 'Gangsta Rap' photos the young black girl behind the counter laughed her head off and thought they were great. An older black gentleman walked in and looked at them.
Him: "I think those photos are racist and offensive."
Me: "I have one question, sir. Why do you think I give a shite what you think?"
He said nothing. I took my Xmas cards and walked out.
Zach is not only unswayed by PC, he actually enjoys mocking it IRL. As I've posted before. My greatest regret in life is that I was never sent to 'Sensitivity Training Seminar.' Oh, the fun it would have been.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:56 am to dante
The Dude: Walter, the chinaman who peed on my rug, I can't go give him a bill, so what the frick are you talking about?
Walter Sobchak: What the frick are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
The Dude: Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy...
Walter Sobchak: What the frick are you...?
The Dude: Walter, he peed on my rug!
Donny: He peed on the Dude's rug.
Walter Sobchak: Donny you're out of your element! Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!
Walter Sobchak: What the frick are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
The Dude: Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy...
Walter Sobchak: What the frick are you...?
The Dude: Walter, he peed on my rug!
Donny: He peed on the Dude's rug.
Walter Sobchak: Donny you're out of your element! Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:00 pm to navy
quote:Classic movie
The Dude: Walter, the chinaman who peed on my rug, I can't go give him a bill, so what the frick are you talking about?
Walter Sobchak: What the frick are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
The Dude: Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy...
Walter Sobchak: What the frick are you...?
The Dude: Walter, he peed on my rug!
Donny: He peed on the Dude's rug.
Walter Sobchak: Donny you're out of your element! Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:52 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:You are so full of shite.
JEAUXBLEAUX
PC is a manipulation of society. The "crimes" it constantly browbeats people with will never disappear, as far as it's concerned. The "cause" will never disappear because it would mean the end of leftist power.
Hipster irony is racist
Bitcoin is racist
Black Jack is racist
Math and English are racist
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:08 pm to blueboy
What the hell is Hipster irony, blackjack or whatever? Wake up and smell the real world. If so many people didn't hate other people because of skin color, religion, sexual orientation, there would be no pc.
Thats all. stop hating other people and stereotyping others. respect brother or sister?
Thats all. stop hating other people and stereotyping others. respect brother or sister?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:16 pm to weagle99
Meh I don't say certain things on this board cause I'll get banned but in real life I say exactly what I think with no regard to PC. I hate that shite
But I also treat anyone with respect who deserves respect. But I'm not scared to speak my mind and use strong language to get a point across
But I also treat anyone with respect who deserves respect. But I'm not scared to speak my mind and use strong language to get a point across
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:20 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:However, charges of racism would persist.
Without racists there would be no racism
quote:The cause is a mentality justifying things which are not correct, but rather are politically correct.
get rid of the cause
The cause is a tolerance of incorrectness cast beneath the cloak of political correctness.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:24 pm to deltaland
strong language is fine and called for sometimes. But... name calling and stereotypes are wrong
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