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re: Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy than Meat Eaters

Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:59 am to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:59 am to
These results make me very happy, but they feel like an April Fool's joke. Or some sort of mass population control conspiracy orchestrated by the WHO.

"Eat lots of meat and cheese, less fruits and vegetables, smoke around your kids for their sake, and start consuming alcohol."

Regardless, I shall oblige them (minus the smoking)
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31497 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:01 pm to
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If God had meant for us to be vegetarians, He wouldn't have made beef so delicious.



Great bumper sticker: if God didn't mean us to eat animals, then why'd he make them out of meat?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31497 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Really I think that all you have to do is look at our teeth. What does the structure suggest as our natural diet?


by that logic, all you have to do is look at men's breasts and you'll realize they were meant to breastfeed.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58718 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:06 pm to
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I'm not aware of any vegetarians there.


There is one, in particular. Seems to be a nice person.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:08 pm to
I don't think that's an accurate analogy at all. Under normal conditions, do men's breasts lactate?

ETA: I think using structure of teeth to determine diet is a pretty widely spread method in the scientific community for determining diet of animals both living and extinct. I'm sure you know better though.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:10 pm to
I don't know about studies, but good sense tends to lead me to the conclusion that BALANCE and portion control are a much more factual reason for health than eating no meat or arse loads of meat and maybe a little BS portion of pathetic greens if that even.

IOW, I find vegan diets to be just as unhealthy as the carnivorous rampage that goes on most places in this country and the poor vegetable becomes the red headed stepchild on the plate, if it even makes an appearance at all.





This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65084 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:16 pm to
This makes sense. Humans need protein. Meat contains protein. Humans were meant to eat meat.

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
58873 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:21 pm to
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This makes sense. Humans need protein. Meat contains protein. Humans were meant to eat meat.


True, but similarly humans need fruits and vegetables for proper nutrition, and look at the pathetic attention it gets most places you eat compared to the fixation on protein. It's not even close to being balanced.

Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:27 pm to
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Astonishingly the only subset section of information was that children exposed to tobacco smoke have a statistically significant 22 percent reduction in lung cancer in later life.



Well shite. Guess I'm good to go. I'd rather take my chances though, the 3 rounds of pneumonia before 10 sucked. The funny thing is, as soon as I moved out, those frickers quit smoking
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30106 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 1:42 pm to
Gotta have me some peas, butter beans and broccoli.

But no way am I giving up beef, pork and venison.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10469 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Potential limitations of our results are due to the fact that the
survey was based on cross-sectional data. Therefore, no statements
can be made whether the poorer health in vegetarians in our study
is caused by their dietary habit or if they consume this form of diet
due to their poorer health status. We cannot state whether a causal
relationship exists, but describe ascertained associations.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:01 pm to
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This is not the first time counter-intuitive research


let's see, we have been eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years. Eating meat also helped our brains evolve to the point that modern humans have. So I don't see how it is counter-intuitive.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6529 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:19 pm to
"Eating red meat won't kill you. Now eating some green meat that will kill you." - Chris Rock
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38686 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:19 pm to
If any of you cared to read the abstract, which was not linked in the article you posted, you would find this "study" was strictly interviews with people and their reported "perceived" health. Their actual medical history was not analyzed. The study also reported a low number of vegetarians in the study....343 out of 15,000. The study did find the the subjects with the best perceived health were on a Mediterranean diet which generally consists of eating some meat but mostly fruits and veggies.

The author of the study states the limitations of the study can not determine if being vegetarian is unhealthy. Only that further study is needed.

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