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Obamacare and Cancer. It ain't pretty.

Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28791 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:22 pm
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Some of America's best cancer hospitals are off-limits to many of the people now signing up for coverage under the nation's new health care program.

Doctors and administrators say they're concerned. So are some state insurance regulators. An Associated Press survey found examples coast to coast.


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Before President Barack Obama's health care law, a cancer diagnosis could make you uninsurable. Now, insurers can't turn away people with health problems or charge them more. Lifetime dollar limits on policies, once a financial trap-door for cancer patients, are also banned. The new obstacles are more subtle.

To keep premiums low, insurers have designed narrow networks of hospitals and doctors. The government-subsidized private plans on the exchanges typically offer less choice than Medicare or employer plans. By not including a top cancer center an insurer can cut costs.

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The legislation contains provisions that directly target patients with cancer because their care is perceived as costly. These policies couldn’t be more badly timed.


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Insurers are barred from using the other tools that they’ve traditionally employed to keep the costs of policies in check: cost sharing, underwriting risk, adjusting premiums and benefits. The only thing that health plans are permitted to do under Obamacare is narrow the networks of providers that they contract with. So that’s precisely what they’re doing. By contracting with fewer providers, insurers can cheapen their coverage by clamping down on what doctors prescribe.

This will hit cancer patients especially hard.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90499 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:43 pm to
Forward mother frickers
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8507 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:49 pm to
This is fricking terrible. Somebody smart please get in and repeal this bitch.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41068 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:57 pm to
This can't really surprise anyone can it?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:14 pm to
Bunch of people in here that didn't read the bill obviously.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:46 pm to
I bet that crafty John Roberts still has a trick up his sleeve!!!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98133 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:52 pm to
FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov.
Posted by Slinger16
Not Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
21866 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:43 am to
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John Roberts


Wins the Son of a Bitch of the Decade Award IMO.

I don't know how that shite-heel sleeps at night.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 5:05 am to
I don't get the hate for Roberts it was basically his version of a Switch in Time that saved Nine, removed the court from the political process, and put the repeal of Obamacare (under President Paul) as a simple tax bill they can pass with just 50 senate voters in 2017.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57841 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:20 am to
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" Soylent Green is People!"
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 7:21 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63441 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:23 am to
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FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov.


Shhhh . . . don't spoil it for the others.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9604 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:29 am to
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Stitch in Time that saved Nine



FIFY
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:33 am to
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quote:FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov


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Shhhh . . . don't spoil it for the others.


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Seattle Cancer Care Alliance is excluded by five out of eight insurers in Washington's insurance exchange. MD Anderson Cancer Center says it's in less than half of the plans in the Houston area. Memorial Sloan-Kettering is included by two of nine insurers in New York City and has out-of-network agreements with two more.

In all, only four of 19 nationally recognized comprehensive cancer centers that responded to AP's survey said patients have access through all the insurance companies in their states' exchanges.



Hope this makes you feel better if you or yours ever need cancer treatment from MD.
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
1546 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:39 am to
My mom's best friend got diagnosed with breast cancer 5 years ago or so. Well one day her husband just up and quit his job (he is the kind that can't work for somebody else) and they lost insurance. Last time I was home she was over at the house talking about how great it was that she finally had insurance again and could start going to the doctor again. Then my mom said she called her doctor and they said that her insurance was accepted there. At first I was like toldya, but then I was like this shite is costing an arm and a leg and it isn't even covering ppl just giving them a card.

She still thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread though. :banghead:
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:54 am to
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She still thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread though


and there you have it, Obamacare is a success where it matters
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11331 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:01 am to
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I don't know how that shite-heel sleeps at night.


I'm sure his mattress made of $100 bills makes it a lot easier!
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28791 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:06 am to
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FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov.


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Shhhh . . . don't spoil it for the others.


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MD Anderson Cancer Center says it's in less than half of the plans in the Houston area.


Even if MD Anderson is in your network it doesn't mean that the drugs and procedures needed for treatment will be covered.

Shhhh... Just let VOR bask in his ignorance.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:50 am to
It's all part of the liberal progressive plan, single payer. Issues like this will be used to demonize insurance companies justifying complete government control of healthcare.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28791 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:02 am to
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It's all part of the liberal progressive plan, single payer. Issues like this will be used to demonize insurance companies justifying complete government control of healthcare.
Yep.
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