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Question for dog owners. Do any of you feed your dog a raw diet?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:56 am
I'm getting a pup in a few weeks and was looking into this.
Logically, it makes sense to me. Dogs are carnivores, they do not need and do not have the capacity to digest grains that you find in most dog food as filler.
I've found a lot of positives online and no negatives, other than cost. Most people that do it rave that the dogs shite is small, virtually odorless, and turns white and crumbles away after a day or so. Better health is reported as well as rarely if ever having to clean the dog's teeth.
Of course a raw diet consists of meat, bones, and organs. All 3 being necessary if this is the route. Seems like it may be expensive, but not much more expensive than high end dog food.
Any thoughts or experience with raw diet for your dog?
Logically, it makes sense to me. Dogs are carnivores, they do not need and do not have the capacity to digest grains that you find in most dog food as filler.
I've found a lot of positives online and no negatives, other than cost. Most people that do it rave that the dogs shite is small, virtually odorless, and turns white and crumbles away after a day or so. Better health is reported as well as rarely if ever having to clean the dog's teeth.
Of course a raw diet consists of meat, bones, and organs. All 3 being necessary if this is the route. Seems like it may be expensive, but not much more expensive than high end dog food.
Any thoughts or experience with raw diet for your dog?
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:56 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I've given my dog raw fish, chicken, and egg.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:57 am to SabiDojo
but as a once in a while thing or every day?
I know they can handle it without it hurting them
I know they can handle it without it hurting them
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:57 am to Riseupfromtherubble
My GSP grabbed one of my apple cores out the trash last week. Since then I've given him a couple apples.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 9:58 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:59 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I don't do it every say because I don't feel like it.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:59 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Fed chicken sweet potatoes and brown rice.
Dogs have developed alongside people for like 10000 years, they are omnivores at this point.
Like 2 weeks in the dogs got bored and whined at their dogfood bin. Switched back to diamond grain free.
They split 10 egg yolks a day, get table scraps, and get any meat trimmings/bones.
Both are healthy.
The male has an allergy to corn based dog foods. But not real corn....except popcorn.
They love fruits, veg, and cheerios.
Dogs have developed alongside people for like 10000 years, they are omnivores at this point.
Like 2 weeks in the dogs got bored and whined at their dogfood bin. Switched back to diamond grain free.
They split 10 egg yolks a day, get table scraps, and get any meat trimmings/bones.
Both are healthy.
The male has an allergy to corn based dog foods. But not real corn....except popcorn.
They love fruits, veg, and cheerios.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 10:03 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:03 am to SuzukiGoat
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Dogs have developed alongside people for like 10000 years, they are omnivores at this point.
yea..but kibble hasn't been around for that long. Obviously they can handle it, many dogs live long and happy lives on nothing but kibble from birth. Just wondernig if that's what's best for the dog. Because while they me be omnivores out of necessity, they aren't meant to be
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:05 am to Riseupfromtherubble
You know wolves are omnivores right?
They eat berries, some grasses, and some wild veg as well.
Not huge amounts, but they seek these things and eat them for a reason Id bet.
They eat berries, some grasses, and some wild veg as well.
Not huge amounts, but they seek these things and eat them for a reason Id bet.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:06 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Because while they may be omnivores out of necessity, they aren't meant to be.
What you don't see is that carnivores get the nutrients herbivores eat. Even if the dog is no longer hunting or eating raw meat, they still need those nutrients the herbivores did eat.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:07 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Because while they me be omnivores out of necessity, they aren't meant to be
What does that mean?
They weren't "meant" to be a lot of things, but they are. People put way too much thought into what they feed their dogs.
Saying they can't digest grain is just wrong.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:08 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I feed them true dog food, but whenever they're in the kitchen, they do get scraps or if we have leftovers then we give them a bit. Not too much cause some gives them the runs.
Never give my dogs bone except Milkbone. Just never been a fan of it. Lab eats anything ranging from tacos to cinnamon rolls to strawberries to carrots. Now the poodle, aw man she's like a vacuum
. Cake, fish, chicken, sausage, icing you name it.
Point is, don't over feed them. may make them sick or give em a bad case of the BG's.
But if we do give them table scraps, it's mostly berries or left over meat. They're spoiled though. Sometimes they just sit there and watch you eat, hoping you drop a crumb for them.
Never give my dogs bone except Milkbone. Just never been a fan of it. Lab eats anything ranging from tacos to cinnamon rolls to strawberries to carrots. Now the poodle, aw man she's like a vacuum
. Cake, fish, chicken, sausage, icing you name it. Point is, don't over feed them. may make them sick or give em a bad case of the BG's.
But if we do give them table scraps, it's mostly berries or left over meat. They're spoiled though. Sometimes they just sit there and watch you eat, hoping you drop a crumb for them.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:09 am to SuzukiGoat
my neighbor used to feed her two little yappy dogs ground meat/Brown rice/Sweet potatoes/and Parsley. She made these huge pots of it and froze it in baggies. come to think of it, there poop used to turn white in their yard. Seems like it could work for a small dog, but I would hate to try it on my fatass lab.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:10 am to Riseupfromtherubble
i feed mine raw chicken necks. very cheap and good for them, but i still supplement with dog food.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:11 am to TigerDeacon
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What does that mean?
It means that wild dogs are carnivores. The only vegetation they get as a food source come from the stomachs of what they eat.
Wolves do not seek out vegetation as a food source the way bears do unless they are starving to death. Had dogs never been domesticated they'd be carnivores too
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Saying they can't digest grain is just wrong.
Never said that, but they don't digest it as well as meat. The enzymes in their stomachs do not digest grain and vegetation as well as they digest meat.
My plan is morning meal raw, night meal kibble, since the kibble takes longer to digest
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:12 am to Riseupfromtherubble
JMO, but you are looking to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Sure, some dogs need a special diet, and avoiding corn/wheat is important to others, but many dogs do just fine on the lowest price POS kibble their human can find.
I would just buy one of the many(now) available foods with no corn/wheat. My dog's ears problems improved a bit when i did that.
I would just buy one of the many(now) available foods with no corn/wheat. My dog's ears problems improved a bit when i did that.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:13 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Chicken necks or backs?
The local store sells backs for CHEAP
The local store sells backs for CHEAP
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:15 am to AlxTgr
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JMO, but you are looking to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Sure, some dogs need a special diet, and avoiding corn/wheat is important to others, but many dogs do just fine on the lowest price POS kibble their human can find.
Yup. Feed my Boykin a grain-free diet because she has skin issues, but your average pup couldn't give two shits. Now if you are training a dog for high level competition, then, like a world class human athlete, their diet needs to be tailored to that. But your average pet won't know the difference most of the time.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:19 am to AlxTgr
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JMO, but you are looking to fix a problem that doesn't exist yet
The way i'm looking at it. I'm looking to avoid health problems down the road.
I grew up with a beagle that lived to be 16 years old. She ate nothing but kibble and table scraps. By age 9 she was lazy as hell and had terrible breath and bad teeth.
She never got fat, because we fed her once a day, but she was still lazy as hell
ETA: I think some people are getting the wrong idea from this thread. I'm not saying dog food is wrong, or that you don't care about your dog if you feed it bagged dry food. Like I said, did it for years. I'm just saying it seems like raw/natural diet might be better for the dog, and was wondering if anyone had experience with it. The answer to this is obviously no, so that's that.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:24 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I just really think food related health problems are rare.
On the feeding thing, I've free fed three dogs. All three were so lean they looked like they were starving. if a dog(started from pup) knows food is available at all times, they will not get fat. I realize this might not work with some, but it has for me with three totally different breeds. My current Welsh is 10, and looks/acts every bit of 4.
On the feeding thing, I've free fed three dogs. All three were so lean they looked like they were starving. if a dog(started from pup) knows food is available at all times, they will not get fat. I realize this might not work with some, but it has for me with three totally different breeds. My current Welsh is 10, and looks/acts every bit of 4.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:29 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Logically, it makes sense to me. Dogs are carnivores, they do not need and do not have the capacity to digest grains that you find in most dog food as filler.
someone had to think of this while stoned
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and turns white and crumbles away after a day or so
that's from calcium and also the reason you don't see much white shite these days
people use to feed their dogs scrap from the butcher
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I've found a lot of positives online and no negatives,
well.. there are some definite positives, but to say there is almost no negatives is being downright naive, of the top of my head
1. changing their diet in such a dramatic way is going to wreck havoc on their digestive system, it would be like a person eating totally healthy organic food and then eating taco bell for a week straight
2. salmonella (sp?)
3. lack of nutrition provided through dog food
my sister is working on specializing in animal nutrition after vet school this year, i'll ask her and get back in here
but fwiw, i don't totally disagree with this logic, it is just that you have to be careful
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