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Would you have a problem with Bush v Clinton in 2016?

Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:04 am
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:04 am
Am I the only person that has a problem with this? I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone because there is a damn good chance this is what we will see. I hope Rand Paul is the Republican candidate but I doubt that will be the case. Should two families hold onto the executive office for 24 of the last 32 years?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58780 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:05 am to
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Am I the only person that has a problem with this?


No. I'm tired of both families and wish they would go away.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:06 am to
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Bush v Clinton in 2016




I will be voting 3rd party for Gary Johnson like a real American if 2016 comes to that.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84871 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:06 am to
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Should two families hold onto the executive office for 24 of the last 32 years?



of course not
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20872 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:06 am to
Yes. It smacks of monarchy. It's the same reason I hate the Kennedy mythos.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:11 am to
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Would you have a problem with Bush
Yes.
His shot was 2012. He passed. He's done.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89548 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:13 am to
I'm not registered as a democrat, but might change to vote against Clinton in the primary.

I'm certainly not voting for Clinton in the general election.

If I do not change my voter registration, and cast a vote in the Republican primary, it will not be for anyone named Bush. My top 3 choices are: Cruz, Paul and Carson, in no particular order. Carson is likely not running now. I would also listen to Mike Lee if he were to run.

No Romney. No McCain. No Santorum. No Christie. Jindal is less than likely, other than a VP spot (and, even then, more to balance out a giant, pale RINO like Christie, more than top a ticket himself.)

Cruz/Carson could be a compelling ticket against Clinton/(if I had to call it right now - Mark Warner) in 2016.

Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:15 am to
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Would you have a problem with Bush v Clinton in 2016?




Yes. Make it stop
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:20 am to
After 8 years of W, the Bush brand is so tarnished that I doubt we will ever see another one in the White House.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:20 am to
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Would you have a problem with Bush v Clinton in 2016?


Yeah. If its George Bush and Bill Clinton that's a violation of the Constitution!


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Should two families hold onto the executive office for 24 of the last 32 years?


Only if the Electoral College decides it so.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16744 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:21 am to
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Cruz/Carson could be a compelling ticket against Clinton/(if I had to call it right now - Mark Warner) in 2016.


compelling for who? That ticket would hand Clinton the whitehouse.

you can not be openly ant-government and think you have even a remote chance at the WH. Best bet is to appeal to the middle and get the independent vote and slowly chip away at big gov and handouts once in office.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58780 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:22 am to
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SpidermanTUba


Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:24 am to
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Only if the Electoral College decides it so


The party primaries will decide if we see that ticket and not the electoral college.
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:28 am to
Both families need to go away. They have both done enough damage to this country.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:31 am to
Yes.

Anyone who continually supports the American version of royal families has the IQ of a brick.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89548 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:38 am to
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Best bet is to appeal to the middle and get the independent vote and slowly chip away at big gov and handouts once in office.


Like Romney? McCain? Dole? Ford? guys who have gone exactly 0-fer against the dems over the past 40 years. (If you count H.W., then that kind of candidate is 1-5 against the dems in 38 years).

Regardless of what W did, he campaigned on a small government campaign - at least upon principles. The fact that he didn't live up to it was not what people voted for.

If the Republicans don't get a candidate who will run on principle, and just try to be a democrat-lite - they will lose for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 9:39 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16744 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:00 am to
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Like Romney? McCain? Dole? Ford?


Romney was completely unlikeable, and Palin tanked any chance McCain had.

The GOP has suffered from a dynamic personality who can appeal to broad swaths of people the past few election cycles. And some of the guys coming up who might have great public appeal on a personal level might be too far right to appear to the middle.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51292 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:02 am to
Oh wow, could you imagine the low turnout in a Bush vs. Clinton election?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89548 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:06 am to
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Palin


Was the reason he got any traction at all. I'm not saying she was a great choice, but she sparked quite a bit of interest and attention.

McCain lost because of McCain. Ford, HW, Dole, McCain and Romney are Republican insiders who do not hold principled stances on any (or, if so, few) issues - Ford was clearly a placeholder, caretaker who just happened to beat Reagan in 1976 - well 4 years of Carter people were ready for ANYTHING else. Ford, HW and Dole are just bland policy wonks, with zero dynamism.

How did W get elected? It wasn't pandering to the middle - that's for sure. Not, strictly speaking, "dynamic", but next to Gore (and Kerry - WTF were the Dems thinking?) he seemed downright charismatic.

But, by all means, keep allowing the Dems and the liberal press pick the Republican candidate and see how that works out...
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:07 am to
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Am I the only person that has a problem with this?


No, I would have a problem with both of them. A Bush v Clinton ticket would just be a recycled version of the past 30 years. We need new ideas, new leadership.
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