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If Romney Were President, How Would He Be Handling...

Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:21 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:21 am
the situation with the Ukraine?

and,

how would he be handling the ACA implementation (would liberals and conservatives both be screaming if he were unilaterally delaying implementation as Obama is currently)?
Posted by C
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:23 am to
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If Romney Were President, How Would He Be Handling...


Considering he foresight, I don't think it would have happened. He would have been much more respectful to the adversary we have in Russia and given more weight to continued diplomacy in the region while supporting Europe defensively.

Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:42 am to
There are a lot of variables here and no one really knows.

Putin may have seen Romney as a stronger president and not invaded in the first place, or Putin may have used Ukraine as a test case for Romney.

There is a bigger picture here than just the Ukraine, and it involves five years of perceived weakness By Obama and a weakened George Bush in his last two years in office.



Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:44 am to
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how would he be handling the ACA implementation (would liberals and conservatives both be screaming if he were unilaterally delaying implementation as Obama is currently)?

This should be a stand lone thread.

If Romney had gotten elected and then started selectively EOing delays in the ACA, the shite storm would be unimaginable.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:45 am to
Bush was seen as one of the strongest presidents from a commander in chief perspective, and that didnt stop Putin from invading Georgia.

its on his doorstep. There isnt anything we can or could have done militarily.

Economic and diplomatic isolation are the only weapons here, unless somehoe Ukraine manages to solicit NATO assistance.

and from the look of things, Putin will get Crimea. Russia marched in, and are basically allowing Crimea to seceed Ukraine without a civil war.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 8:48 am
Posted by ironsides
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:47 am to
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If Romney had gotten elected and then started selectively EOing delays in the ACA, the shite storm would be unimaginable.


Wasn't his platform a complete repeal of the ACA?
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:54 am to
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Bush was seen as one of the strongest presidents from a commander in chief perspective, and that didnt stop Putin from invading Georgia.


Actually at the end of his term W was pretty feeble.

The economic collapse and the two wars had greatly weakened him.

And note Putin waited until the very end of W's term before invading. W was out less than six months later.

In fairness, Obama inherited a pretty weak position in regards to Russia, but that didn't slow him down. He proceeded to weaken out position even further and now we are as weak as we have been in a long time.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:00 am to
There would have been no reset button, I assure you of that.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:03 am to
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There would have been no reset button, I assure you of that.


Exactly, that RESET button thing probably gave Putin the go ahead for further aggression on his neighbors.

Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:13 am to
First he would have done manly things at camp David to intimidate the shite out of Putin.

Secondly, he would have played chess.

Thirdly, he would put boots on the ground for operation Crimean Freedom.

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:16 am to
I wish I had a cogent answer for you.




Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:41 am to
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"I looked the man in the eye, I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul - a man deeply committed to his country, and the best interests of his country."

-GWB on meeting Putin
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 10:03 am
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:46 am to
Romney would be shirtless standing on a tank in Ukraine challenging Putin to a wrestling match to the death, winner take all. For added fun, he would suggest that bears be added to the ring.

You could play this game from the left, what if Gore had been selected instead of bush. No 9/11, no iraq, no afghanastan, no housing bubble, no global economic collapse.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 9:47 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

If Romney Were President, How Would He Be Handling...
the situation with the Ukraine?


He'd be doing the same thing Obama is doing and everyone on the board would be praising him for it.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
64389 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:16 am to
I think most here would contend that the US posture under Romney would/might have prevented it to start with. We can never know.
But once it occurs there is not much any leader can do short term. The Ukranians must deal with the Bear on their doorstep for now
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:18 am to
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US posture under Romney would/might have prevented it to start with.



That's crazy talk. Don't be a hack. Putin gon Putin.
Posted by trackfan
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:21 am to
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Considering he foresight, I don't think it would have happened. He would have been much more respectful to the adversary we have in Russia and given more weight to continued diplomacy in the region while supporting Europe defensively.

Do you really think that Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Romney were President?

EDIT: I blame Clinton, W and Obama for trying push NATO on Russia's doorstep and allowing the NED to meddle in Eastern Europe. On Obama in particular, I blame him for not firing Victoria Nuland already, becasue all she did was add fuel to the fire.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 10:29 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:24 am to
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the situation with the Ukraine?


I would hope that he would have pursued the missile defense shield in Eastern Europe in order to keep Putin in check. If not that then some other endeavor that would have been costly and time-consuming for the Russians to match. The key is to keep Putin so focused on keeping pace with us that he doesn't have enough time to focus on things like Ukraine. President Obama refuses to think that way, thus giving Putin the upper hand every time.

quote:

how would he be handling the ACA implementation (would liberals and conservatives both be screaming if he were unilaterally delaying implementation as Obama is currently)?


I hope he would have stuck to his campaign promise and pushed the House GOP to start a bill that would completely rescind the ACA. The problem would be the Dems holding the majority in the Senate (especially Reid's position allowing him to just table anything he wants that comes from the House). More than likely this would have been the course and so there would be a stalemate. The difference between that what-if and now would be that mandate exemptions probably wouldn't have happened/been extended. If the GOP played it right, they would go into 2016 with huge momentum as the as-passed ACA would already be crippling the economy.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36058 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:26 am to
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He'd be doing the same thing Obama is doing and everyone on the board would be praising him for it.


I bet Romney would have called for a RESET. You have to know that.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24608 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:28 am to
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Considering he foresight, I don't think it would have happened. He would have been much more respectful to the adversary we have in Russia and given more weight to continued diplomacy in the region while supporting Europe defensively.


This ladies and gentlemen, is a prime example of delusion at its finest. The man insulted our closest ally before they held the olympics. Obama shows respect - he's a pussy and the USA is weak. The double standards from some comments on this site is sickening.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 10:29 am
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