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6 Countries That Totally Ignored Obama's Demands

Posted on 3/5/14 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 5:41 pm
Such leadership, let's carve his ears into Mount Rushmore.

It's embarrassing for a world power to see its warnings so cavalierly disregarded - and not just when it comes to Russia and Ukraine. During his second term, President Obama has repeatedly found that the sternest warnings and firmest demands from the United States have been ignored with impunity.

Consider these examples:

CHINA and RUSSIA: Snowden Slips By
RHETORIC: The Administration repeatedly warned China (where Snowden first fled) and Russia that Edward Snowden was a fugitive felon who must be turned over to the United States. On June 24, 2013, Secretary of State John Kerry bluntly warned he "would be deeply troubled" if Snowden were permitted to fly from Hong Kong to Russia "and there would be, without any question some effect and impact on the relationship and consequences." After Snowden boarded the plane in Hong Kong, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney added ominously: "This was a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive despite a valid arrest warrant, and that decision unquestionably has a negative impact on the U.S.-China relationship."

REACTION: China ignored U.S. demands and allowed Snowden to travel to Russia. Russia ignored demands to turn Snowden over to U.S. authorities and granted him asylum.

SYRIA: The Vanishing 'Red Line'
RHETORIC: "We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region that that's a red line for us and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front or the use of chemical weapons," President Obama said on Aug. 20, 2012.

REACTION: Syria allegedly uses chemical weapons attacks outside Damascus and Aleppo, killing 25 and wounding dozens more.

SYRIA: A 'Game Changer' That Didn't Change The Game
RHETORIC: "I have made clear that the use of chemical weapons is a game changer," President Obama said on Mar. 20, 2013.

REACTION: On August 21, 2013, Syria engages in a significantly larger chemical weapons attack in the suburbs of Damascus, killing over a thousand people, including hundreds of children.

EGYPT: Warning the Military on Democracy
RHETORIC: First, the United States, urged the Egyptian military not to overthrow Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi. On July 3, 2013, Morsi was overthrown. Immediately afterward, President Obama said he was "deeply concerned," adding: "I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsi and his supporters."

REACTION: The arrest of President Morsi and his supporters and a sometimes bloody crackdown on the opposition led President Obama to cancel joint military exercises with Egypt a month later.

AFGHANISTAN: Extending The Exit Strategy
RHETORIC: The Administration repeatedly warned that if Afghan President Hamid Karzai did not sign the negotiated Bilateral Security Agreement (BSA), the United States would be forced to proceed with plans to withdraw all American troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

REACTION: Karzai refused to sign by the end-of-year deadline and continues to refuses even as the administration has extended the deadline.

UGANDA: It's Complicated
RHETORIC: On February 16, 2014 President Obama issued a blunt warning to Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni not to enact a law imposing harsh penalties for homosexual acts. "It will be a step backward for all Ugandans and reflect poorly on Uganda's commitment to protecting the human rights of its people," the president said in a written statement. "As we have conveyed to President Museveni, enacting this legislation will complicate our valued relationship with Uganda."

REACTION: One week later, President Museveni signed the bill into law anyway.

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Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20883 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 5:53 pm to
Let's face the facts here. Obama sucks and is an empty suit.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76502 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 5:59 pm to
Uganda is a stretch.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:00 pm to
Its easy to ignore demands, when you know it isn't something worth going to war over.

The problem is we shouldn't be making most of these demands if we aren't ready to back them up.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

"I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsi and his supporters."



Why is Obama not equally concerned about the overthrow of the legitimate, democratically elected leader of Ukraine?
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9414 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:08 pm to
Obama has no business making "demands" to other nations and neither does any other president for that matter.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76502 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Why is Obama not equally concerned about the overthrow of the legitimate, democratically elected leader of Ukraine?


He wasn't fairly elected by many accounts FWIW.
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:13 pm to
Rhetoric is his strongest suit.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

He wasn't fairly elected by many accounts FWIW.



"The professional, transparent and honest voting and counting should serve as a solid foundation for a peaceful transition of power."

"Yesterday's vote was an impressive display of democratic elections. For everyone in Ukraine, this election was a victory. It is now time for the country's political leaders to listen to the people's verdict and make sure that the transition of power is peaceful and constructive," said João Soares, President of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly and Special Co-ordinator of the OSCE short-term observers."

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The 57 OSCE members, including the United States:

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Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:37 pm to
Your exactly right. If your not gonna back up your threats don't say anything,at least then they have to wonder. This Administration has proving time and time again they have no back bone. None.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76502 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:39 pm to
That article is from 2010:

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quote:

"One should not have to visit a prison to hear from leading political figures," the OSCE said. "Considering the abuse of power, and the excessive role of money in this election, democratic progress appears to have reversed in Ukraine," said Walburga Habsburg Douglas, a Swedish MP who headed the OSCE mission. The criticism contrasted sharply with the international observers' conclusions on Ukraine's February 2010 presidential election, judged to have been transparent, unbiased and an "impressive display" of democracy.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

That article is from 2010:



Yes , it is, because that's when Yanukovych was elected to the Presidency for a five-year term.

His election was deemed a fair election.

You're talking about the 2012 parliamentary elections.

My original post read:

"Why is Obama not equally concerned about the overthrow of the legitimate, democratically elected leader of Ukraine?"

In Ukraine, regardless of the the makeup of the legislative body, the President serves as the Head of State.

My original post still stands.

Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Its easy to ignore demands, when you know it isn't something worth going to war over. The problem is we shouldn't be making most of these demands if we aren't ready to back them up.
So Obama sucks thanks.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:49 pm to
Why do you hate your country so much?
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Why do you hate your country so much?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78912 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:02 am to
He somehow forgot to lead by example, not cater to the whims of his clown posse
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:59 am to
quote:

Your exactly right. If your not gonna back up your threats don't say anything,at least then they have to wonder. This Administration has proving time and time again they have no back bone. None.


Ask Bin Laden.

Many Presidents (Eisenhower included) have had no backbone if not taking military action over foreign invasions is the criteria.


Obama doesn' t have to put his life on the line & I respect that he isn't so willing to put others on the line for Ukraine. Despite what internet tough guys & GOP politicians(with political cheap shots) think.

This isn't some damn junior high school pissing contest


One minute Obama is a ruthless tyrant & the next he is weak. Which is it?
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:09 am to
quote:

Ask Bin Laden.
Ask him what?
quote:

This isn't some damn junior high school pissing contest
No foolin Wally?
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10753 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Obama has no business making "demands" to other nations and neither does any other president for that matter
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:14 am to
quote:

One minute Obama is a ruthless tyrant & the next he is weak. Which is it?
He's both. Most Tyrants are insecure little pussies and this guy easily fits that bill.
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