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My obligatory Oscar rant
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:48 am
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:48 am
I want to precede the following with an official acknowledgement: I am a Gravity fanboy. That having been said, however, I predicted (correctly) that 12 Years a Slave would win Best Picture. The opinions stated below are entirely my own. I know Gravity is hit or miss with a lot of people on this board, but I truly enjoyed the film and think it's one of the better ones to come along in the last 20 or so years.
Now comes the part where I rant:
As I said above, I predicted 12 Years a Slave to win the Oscar for Best Picture, as did many others, and it really ticks me off how everyone could see its win coming a mile away. It was a film tailor-made to win Oscars and the Academy fell for it hook, line and sinker. Films like that are very easy to make nowadays and they involve no amount of risk. On the other hand you have a film like Gravity, a true cinematic achievement, that no studio wanted to touch with a 10 meter cattle prod. It was a huge risk to make with very little margin for error. And Alfonso Cuaron, the film's director, knocked it out of the park. He deserved the Oscar he won tonight. But Gravity deserved so much more. It deserved the big prize. How can a film that wins 7 Oscars not win Best Picture? It's absurd. I'm getting tired of the Academy voting for a film they think is the most "important" and "relevant" instead of voting on true cinematic greatness and real risk takers.
Now comes the part where I rant:
As I said above, I predicted 12 Years a Slave to win the Oscar for Best Picture, as did many others, and it really ticks me off how everyone could see its win coming a mile away. It was a film tailor-made to win Oscars and the Academy fell for it hook, line and sinker. Films like that are very easy to make nowadays and they involve no amount of risk. On the other hand you have a film like Gravity, a true cinematic achievement, that no studio wanted to touch with a 10 meter cattle prod. It was a huge risk to make with very little margin for error. And Alfonso Cuaron, the film's director, knocked it out of the park. He deserved the Oscar he won tonight. But Gravity deserved so much more. It deserved the big prize. How can a film that wins 7 Oscars not win Best Picture? It's absurd. I'm getting tired of the Academy voting for a film they think is the most "important" and "relevant" instead of voting on true cinematic greatness and real risk takers.
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:53 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:58 am to RollTide1987
I disagree with you
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:02 am to RollTide1987
Funny because I remember you vehemently supporting Lincoln last year, and that film was total Oscar bait too.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:07 am to RollTide1987
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I truly enjoyed the film and think it's one of the better ones to come along in the last 20 or so years.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:08 am to RollTide1987
Well, I disagree with the premise because the Academy actually has a pretty mediocre track record of giving "important" pictures the top award. Yes, Saving Private Ryan, you can put your hand down.
As for Gravity? Loved it. Deserved every technical award it received. Since Cuaron (sp?) was so involved in every aspect of that, I believed he earned the Best Director nod, as well.
But Best Picture? I just don't see it. Beyond the visual and audio spectacle (especially in 3D), I just don't how it rates. The screenplay was basically a disaster flick in space and you can't have believed that either Clooney or Bullock deserved acting awards (Clooney was basically playing "Astronaut George Clooney") so I can't see how Gravity as a whole wins Best Picture. Sure, Titanic won with more or less the same resume but that was an outlier and it arguably had better acting.
Look at it on the bright side. In 20 years, Gravity will be dated as hell so you'll be spared having it mentioned in the same breath as Forrest Gump.
As for Gravity? Loved it. Deserved every technical award it received. Since Cuaron (sp?) was so involved in every aspect of that, I believed he earned the Best Director nod, as well.
But Best Picture? I just don't see it. Beyond the visual and audio spectacle (especially in 3D), I just don't how it rates. The screenplay was basically a disaster flick in space and you can't have believed that either Clooney or Bullock deserved acting awards (Clooney was basically playing "Astronaut George Clooney") so I can't see how Gravity as a whole wins Best Picture. Sure, Titanic won with more or less the same resume but that was an outlier and it arguably had better acting.
Look at it on the bright side. In 20 years, Gravity will be dated as hell so you'll be spared having it mentioned in the same breath as Forrest Gump.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:18 am to Walking the Earth
Damn, that was a good post. I can feel the burn through my screen.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 2:42 am to RollTide1987
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I'm getting tired of the Academy voting for a film they think is the most "important" and "relevant" instead of voting on true cinematic greatness and real risk takers.
this part has been obvious for a very long time. great comedies especially tend to be overlooked when it comes time to discuss best picture
I'll have to see 12 years a slave before passing judgment on whether or not gravity was better.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:17 am to RollTide1987
Guy from Captain Phillips got robbed on the Supporting Actor award. I was bummed about that and quit watching for the most part. Ellen had a great opener though.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:17 am to RollTide1987
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I predicted (correctly)
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As I said above, I predicted 12 Years a Slave to win the Oscar for Best Picture, as did many others
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How can a film that wins 7 Oscars not win Best Picture? It's absurd. I'm getting tired of the Academy voting for a film they think is the most "important" and "relevant" instead of voting on true cinematic greatness and real risk takers.
Give up your quest for the Oscars to actually pick the "BEST" film of the year. 90% of the time, they do not. But that isn't their goal.
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And Alfonso Cuaron, the film's director, knocked it out of the park. He deserved the Oscar he won tonight.
I'm not sure if Director's get Best Picture Oscars anyway. Producers do (Not sure if he produced it). I'm happier that he got BD, that's just better for him.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:32 am to DallasTiger11
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Funny because I remember you vehemently supporting Lincoln last year, and that film was total Oscar bait too.
Every film nominated for Best Picture last year was total Oscar bait though. When films like Inception and Gravity come along, however, I vehemently root for them because they are trend buckers.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 7:35 am
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:33 am to Freauxzen
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I'm not sure if Director's get Best Picture Oscars anyway. Producers do (Not sure if he produced it).
He did produce it.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:38 am to RollTide1987
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Every film nominated for Best Picture last year was total Oscar bait though.
Uhhh what? Lincoln and Pi were. Les Miserables is a musical when musicals aren't really THAT Popular, not bait, or not like they were back in the day. Django wasn't that good, also not bait. Southern Wild was... Juno. So maybe bait but it wasn't that good either.
Amour was just a good film, far from bait.
Argo, not bait. I really think they were surprised at the push for it.
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When films like Inception and Gravity come along, however, I vehemently root for them because they are trend buckers.
Holy shite, look at the other thread:
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Since when does a movie have to do something new to win Best Picture? Shakespeare in Love was a clever film, I love it, but Saving Private Ryan has impacted the film industry more so than Shakespeare in Love despite doing "something new".
Those are your words verbatim. LINK
You specifically say that doing something new, or "bucking the trend," does not make a movie deserve to win. Which is it?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:55 am to RollTide1987
My beef is that the Oscars are awarding Best Picture to the best overall film, right?
Gravity won 7 awards last night in some of the most key categories for cinema. It was a visual experience with the best directing, cinematography, musical score, and editing.
It also featured a best actress nomination, so it's not like they thought the acting was poor.
Gravity won 7 awards last night in some of the most key categories for cinema. It was a visual experience with the best directing, cinematography, musical score, and editing.
It also featured a best actress nomination, so it's not like they thought the acting was poor.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:00 am to RollTide1987
I am glad Cuaron won best director though, he should have handled the entire Harry Potter series.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:11 am to RollTide1987
Visually, I thought Gravity was stunning. Otherwise, I didnt really enjoy it that much. A fire extinguisher.....really??
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:21 am to RollTide1987
I enjoyed both movies. I think the voters got it right. Gravity was an amazing achievement in visual direction that also maintained humanity. Cuaron deserved his Oscar.
But 12 Years a Slave was an extremely well made adapted screenplay that won over even some the biggest cynics. It was a fascinating story and moving story. Every performance was pitch perfect and the cinematography was terrific.
But 12 Years a Slave was an extremely well made adapted screenplay that won over even some the biggest cynics. It was a fascinating story and moving story. Every performance was pitch perfect and the cinematography was terrific.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:25 am to RollTide1987
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How can a film that wins 7 Oscars not win Best Picture?
Apparently because the story sucked.
Also, winning a bunch of technical awards like sound editing doesn't equate to the movie being the best.
O, and it took 12 Years a Slave something like 8 years to be made.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:33 am to RollTide1987
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I predicted 12 Years a Slave to win the Oscar for Best Picture, as did many others, and it really ticks me off how everyone could see its win coming a mile away. It was a film tailor-made to win Oscars and the Academy fell for it hook, line and sinker.
I was watching the Oscars with a "very liberal" friend of mine and she predicted that 12YAS would win. She got so excited when it won. My response to her was "I didn't even realize that you saw the movie." To which she responded that she didn't.
Seriously, when people who have never seen the movie (and probably never will) can so easily predict that the movie will win the Oscar (just like you can predict Sean Penn playing a homosexual is a shoo-in for any Oscar), what's the freakin point of having awards?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:37 am to MMauler
You have a point, but 12YaS is very, very good.
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