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How AAU And The NBA Killed College Basketball
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:08 am
I was listening to the Sports Reporters and one of the guys was talking about the low scoring in CBB and how its too beautiful of a game to die they way it is. He didn't give any specific reason, but the answer is simple, fundamentals aren't taught anymore. Kids today aren't taught to shoot properly and lack fundamentals. In pick up games, they mimic what they see on the NBA. Add this with the one and done and the equation is starting to shape up. Meanwhile, AAU coaches further promote this by only wanting guys with raw athleticism. I will further go on to say that AAU coaches have crippled true potential by this practice. In order to get CBB back to the truly great game it was in the late 80s and 90s we have to get back to the fundamentals..
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:09 am to MontyFranklyn
I think players mimic what they see in the NBA because that is their overall goal, to get to the NBA and compete.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:10 am to MontyFranklyn
+1
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:15 am to MontyFranklyn
the quality of players in the nba is the highest it's ever been. explain that.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:16 am to MontyFranklyn
I think you are putting a little too much emphasis on fundamentals. If you are good enough, you can play "backyard ball" and make it to the nba. The talent is not staying in college, that's the problem
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 9:18 am
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:17 am to MontyFranklyn
"Skip to my Lou" laughs at this.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:19 am to Buddy Garrity
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the quality of players in the nba is the highest it's ever been
based on what?
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:21 am to MontyFranklyn
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lack fundamentals
I'm pretty sure Jamal Crawford never added anything to his game until last year. If you are good, you are good.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:22 am to LSU Piston
The NBA is glorified street ball now that is based on athleticism. What alot of you fail to see is that the true stars on the league, Durant and Bron have developed jumpers. Today guys are drafted off potential. Scouts don't care if they can shoot now, they leave that up to the player to develop on his own later. Perfect example, Michael Carter Williams. The kid can't shoot worth a damn, but he has great potential and could develop a shot. Meanwhile less athletic guys like Jamaal Crawford can only stay in the league because they can shoot.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:23 am to Buddy Garrity
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quality of players in the nba is the highest it's ever been. explain that.
Bwahahahahaha. Not even close but keep telling yourself that. Where the fricking do some of yall get this shite from? People who think that weren't alive in the late 80's early 90's.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:23 am to MontyFranklyn
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He didn't give any specific reason, but the answer is simple, fundamentals aren't taught anymore.
that isn't the reason
CBB, like all sports, has evolved to become more defensive with fewer chances taken. CBB has been late to adjust rules to incentivize offense and punish over-defensive moves (typically hand checks)
also CBB doesn't get to steal the elite talent for 3-4 years anymore, so you have less talented guys playing than you did 20-30 years ago
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In pick up games, they mimic what they see on the NBA
superior basketball?
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In order to get CBB back to the truly great game it was in the late 80s and 90s we have to get back to the fundamentals..
you'll need talent, and i doubt you get it
CBB is dying. deal with it. it's a vastly inferior sport to pro ball anyway
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:24 am to sbr2
quote:Wow that is crazy we were thinking of the same player
I'm pretty sure Jamal Crawford never added anything to his game until last year. If you are good, you are good.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:25 am to MontyFranklyn
Or maybe... just maybe... it has to do with the 35 second shot clock.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:26 am to MontyFranklyn
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The NBA is glorified street ball now that is based on athleticism.
the NBA shoots more 3s now than ever.
a. how is that street ball?
b. how is that "based on athleticism"?
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What alot of you fail to see is that the true stars on the league, Durant and Bron have developed jumpers.
welcome to 5 years ago
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Today guys are drafted off potential. Scouts don't care if they can shoot now, they leave that up to the player to develop on his own later.
coached by professional coaches. a great deal
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Perfect example, Michael Carter Williams.
he played multiple years in college. he just isn't a good shooter. you can't blame the NBA on that
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Meanwhile less athletic guys like Jamaal Crawford
what?
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:28 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:He said that too, but taking away 5 seconds from a team that can't shoot to begin with won't help any. I argue that scores will go down even more. You will increase possessions, but field goal % will decrease accordingly
Or maybe... just maybe... it has to do with the 35 second shot clock.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:28 am to LaBornNRaised
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People who think that weren't alive in the late 80's early 90's.
i watched teh bad boy revolution and the NBA copy cat them to almost super defensive death through the 90s
the game was less physical then and they didn't play defense (i'm talking up until the bad boy revolution, obviously. the following era, post-Jordan, almost killed the NBA so let's not go there)
i went into this yesterday with baloo. even if you are looking at front court players, today is LOADED. they just aren't "traditional" because the game has evolved and people view the NBA through an inferior system for some reason
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:28 am to MontyFranklyn
quote:This isn't true at all.
The NBA is glorified street ball now that is based on athleticism.
What makes you think that?
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:30 am to MontyFranklyn
The league has been bad for years, credit David Stern. He rode the Michael Jordan coattails to the point where people disliked Jordan. Then he hoped for another superstar to take over ala Kobe. Now it is all about LeBron. Other than the San Antonio team, every thing was an isolation one-on-one, if the superstar didn't make the shot, a foul was called. You see the same 3-4 teams in the finals. That is where the NFL understands parity. It keeps a large number of fan bases interested in the league. I think part of the high interest in football year round is due to other sports not having more competitive teams in their leagues.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 9:31 am
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:30 am to MontyFranklyn
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but taking away 5 seconds from a team that can't shoot to begin with won't help any.
sure it will. it will increase possessions and decrease coaches trying to control everything
CBB today is like the NBA from the mid-late 90s. it's an ugly, ugly game that has developed around the refs refusing to call fouls. the super physical play is being mixed with super-controlling coaches on offense creating the least risk-averse offense possible. they limit possessions and do everything they can to control offense.
the terrible coaching in college is always a perfect example of why you want kids to leave college as soon as they can
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:31 am to lsusystem
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Other than the San Antonio team, every thing was an isolation one-on-one, if the superstar didn't make the shot, a foul was called.
are you talking the late 90s or today?
that was true in the late-90s b/c coaches wanted risk-averse offense. the rule changes in the early 00s changed this
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You see the same 3-4 teams in the finals.
and i bet you think the 80s was awesome. are you trying to tell me we didn't see the same 2 teams year after year in the 80s?
or the 90s, when ONE team won 6/10 titles?
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 9:32 am
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