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Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:11 am
I'm trying to avoid calling in a plumber but it may be necessary. A couple of days ago water started leaking pretty heavily out of the tank bolts on the bottom of my toilet when I shower. It happens when I try to wash clothes also i'm guessing when it drains, I noticed it mid cycle and immediately just shut washing machine off. Could this be as simple as replacing the wax ring or toilet tank bolts as they are pretty corroded and bad off or is it probably something in the pipes I will have to get someone to come snake? appreciate your time
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15103 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:15 am to
You got a blockage down stream in the 4" waste line. Path of least resistance when it backs up is the toilet with a bad seal. Bad seal under toilet wasn't evident until the blockage occurred. Call Plumber.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56034 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:15 am to
sounds to me like the line from your house to the street is getting clogged...do you have anything backing up in bathtubs or anything like that?...

Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5749 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:17 am to
You're going to have to get your line opened up. Unless you want to go rent a machine, call a plumber.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:22 am to
quote:

You got a blockage down stream in the 4" waste line. Path of least resistance when it backs up is the toilet with a bad seal. Bad seal under toilet wasn't evident until the blockage occurred. Call Plumber.
Is this fixable without calling plumber? I know next to nothing about plumbing but am pretty good with tools and figuring stuff out. i'm pretty financially strapped right now in my last semester of grad school and living of a very fixed budget right now. i'd really like to not have to pay a plumber a big fee if I can do it myself
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:23 am to
I'm no plumber so take this however you want.

I'd pull the toilet and watch the drain as the shower was running to be sure the water was coming up from the drain and not seeping up from the slab. After inspection I'd replace the ring and the bolts. But if it was backing up like that I'd be worried about blockage down the line so I'd probably run my 25 foot snake down the drain line just to be sure and gag like hell if a tampon came back up with the snake. It's happened before.

I have an older house and was having trouble with draining water so installed a lift station outside of the bathroom to push water to the city tie in. I've had to replace the pump once but it's pretty easy and quick to do.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:25 am to
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I'd pull the toilet and watch the drain as the shower was running to be sure the water was coming up from the drain and not seeping up from the slab. After inspection I'd replace the ring and the bolts.
may give this a shot

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to be sure and gag like hell if a tampon came back up with the snake. It's happened before.
I think I would need to see a shrink if that happened

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I have an older house and was having trouble with draining water so installed a lift station outside of the bathroom to push water to the city tie in. I've had to replace the pump once but it's pretty easy and quick to do.
my house is fairly new. built in 1986
Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:26 am to
had literally the exact same problem about two weeks ago. As already been said its a blockage in probably the 3-4" main sewer line. could be secondary line if you have a big house though.

I have a septic system and was able to stick a hose in the cleanout on outside of house and fix it that way.

If you have a septic system (not hooked up to city sewer) then worse-case scenario is that your tank has filled with shite and clogged your fill line. this would be a several thousand dollar fix as the fill line would need to be replaced.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45811 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:27 am to
How old is the home? Newer home probably a clogged line, you could go to a rental place and rent a snake and fix. If it is an older home, you start dealing with the possibility of tree roots in the lines, collapsed lines, etc...
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15103 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:29 am to
Toilet will probably stop leaking if the waste line is cleared. Unless you have or rent a large drain snake your going to have to call a plumber. If you want to take on the task of replacing the toilet seal yourself. Save yourself some hassle and spend a few bucks more and buy a sani-seal foam toilet seal. Easy to install for the first timer than a wax ring.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56034 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:30 am to
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Is this fixable without calling plumber?


go outside of your house and look for a 4" cleanout plug with a cap...take that plug out and run some water in the house...if it flows out of the plug you have a stopped up line and will need to snake from the plug to the street...you can rent a snake at home depot for about $40...

if you have no cleanout plug, you'll have to call a plumber...

I have the same problem about every 6 months due to some tree roots growing into my sewer line...
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 11:33 am
Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:30 am to
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I'd probably run my 25 foot snake down the drain line




this would accomplish what I did with the waterhose regardless if city sewer or septic. DLauw advice is solid.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39204 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:33 am to
Rent a 100ft cable to clear the main sewage line. You should have an opening in your yard. The cable is big and heavy but fairly simple to use.
Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:33 am to
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if you have no cleanout plug, you'll have to call a plumber...



I would try removing the toilet and running snake down line before I call a plumber. Not ideal at all but I don't want to pay a plumber.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5749 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:38 am to
You can go buy a 4" blow bag ( it screws on to the end of your water hose) and drop it in your clean out. They cost about $20. If you want to try it yourself, you can go rent a snake. If there is no clean out, you can pull the toilet and run it that way. Be careful though. That snake can hurt you if you don't know what you're doing. Fwiw, a plumber will charge you anywhere from $150-200 to open it up for you. ( maybe more) good luck to you.
Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:42 am to
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a plumber will charge you anywhere from $150-200



going rate for plumbers here is 90$hr...fwiw
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12128 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:44 am to
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Is this fixable without calling plumber? I know next to nothing about plumbing but am pretty good with tools and figuring stuff out. i'm pretty financially strapped right now in my last semester of grad school and living of a very fixed budget right now. i'd really like to not have to pay a plumber a big fee if I can do it myself


How old is your house? it sounds like a dumb question but if you have clay sewer pipes (lots of older houses) then you might have some roots growing through the joints. They make some stuff that you put in the toilet that will kill the roots and help open it back up. This will be an ongoing process though if it has started.

Another cause could be something as stupid as someone throwing qtips into the toilet and it turning sideways just right to start a clog and then it snowballed from there, in this case you can snake it or you can call a plumber.

Do you have a 4" washout outside your house? It should be a 4 inch screw off pvc cap around ground height. If you do, you can take a water hose with a screw out high pressure nozzle and stick it down in there and hope that the clog is on that end and it will knock it loose.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:49 am to
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How old is your house?
built in 1986

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Do you have a 4" washout outside your house? It should be a 4 inch screw off pvc cap around ground height
just looked and found it. yes I do

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you can take a water hose with a screw out high pressure nozzle and stick it down in there and hope that the clog is on that end and it will knock it loose.
bout to try this
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:57 am to
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go outside of your house and look for a 4" cleanout plug with a cap...take that plug out and run some water in the house...if it flows out of the plug you have a stopped up line and will need to snake from the plug to the street...you can rent a snake at home depot for about $40...



are you referring to something that looks like this? I have one of these coming out the side of my house about 6 inches off the ground

Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56034 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:00 pm to
that is it...take the plug out and see what is there...then go inside and flush some toilets so you can see if the water flows correctly...there should be no more than about a half inch of water flowing in the bottom of the pipe...

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