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State Minimum Wage Bill

Posted on 2/25/14 at 7:20 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21255 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 7:20 am
LA State Sen. Yvonne Dorsey-Colomb has prefiled a bill for the coming Legislative Session to increase the State minimum wage to $10/hr. I'll leave it up to your imagination which party she belongs to.

LA Dems are now starting to push the issue pretty hard and putting stuff out that made me curious to look up the roll call vote for the National minimum wage increase from 2007.

Members of our Congressional Delegation who voted YES to increase the National Minimum Wage to over $7/hr.: Rodney Alexander, Charlie Melancon, Bobby Jindal, Dollar Bill Jefferson, Vitter and Landrieu.

There's two names up there on the Yes list I did not expect to see.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 7:22 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14496 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:27 am to
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Rodney Alexander, Charlie Melancon, Bobby Jindal, Dollar Bill Jefferson, Vitter and Landrieu.


LOL good find!

That said, I don't find supporting an increase in the minimum wage to be scarlet letter to forever someone unclean.

I am OK with supporting an increase in the min wage when the economy is doing well, and wage inflation has increased sufficiently. That way you mitigate the downside by essentially ratifying a wage increase that the free market has already determined.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21255 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:33 am to
The vote in the House was something like 330-100 while Senate was 94-3. Not much dissenting.
Posted by Monsieur Le Prince
Hôtel de Condé
Member since Feb 2014
18 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:37 am to
In absolute terms, wages have stagnated. The free market isn't compensating. Raising the minimum wage is an issue of critical importance and should be done, but it doesn't address the fundamental issues afflicting our consumer economy...i.e. the growing chasm between the middle class and the wealthiest Americans.

A lot of people here criticize raising the minimum wage, as if liberals or progressives think it's a panacea. It isn't, and it isn't supposed to be. But it's still an important piece of social policy that we should be able to agree on.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:49 am to
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A lot of people here criticize raising the minimum wage, as if liberals or progressives think it's a panacea. It isn't, and it isn't supposed to be. But it's still an important piece of social policy that we should be able to agree on.


Setting the price of labor is certainly "social" in one sense of the word.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 9:19 am to
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A lot of people here criticize raising the minimum wage, as if liberals or progressives think it's a panacea. It isn't, and it isn't supposed to be. But it's still an important piece of social policy that we should be able to agree on.


Raise the costs of doing business means raising the costs of things people buy. It will zero out any impact. When they go to buy something and it costs more their extra money is meaningless. It is also meaningless if they get replaced by an iPad or some other technology because they have become too expensive.
Posted by Monsieur Le Prince
Hôtel de Condé
Member since Feb 2014
18 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:17 pm to
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aise the costs of doing business means raising the costs of things people buy. It will zero out any impact.


Macro-economics isn't that simple.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12338 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:20 pm to
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The free market isn't compensating. Raising the minimum wage is an issue of critical importance and should be done


Ive got 22 part timers that work for me.. raise minimum wage by 40% and 6-8 college aged adults lose their job.. Thats the reality
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76672 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:25 pm to
But that's the genius of it. Those that lose such "menial jobs" are the "lucky ones." The Dems can then herd many of the newly unemployed into support programs. Once they are dependent on the system and stagnate, voila! Votes for life.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48332 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:30 pm to
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In absolute terms, wages have stagnated


Really? Starting when?

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the growing chasm between the middle class and the wealthiest Americans


If everyone is living better....why is this a problem?

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But it's still an important piece of social policy that we should be able to agree on


Why? You think it should outpace inflation?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29389 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Really? Starting when?


I mean, when you factor in increased fuel costs, healthcare costs, cost of buying stuff, my taxes have increased, I'm not really making all that much more money than I was 5 years ago.

I mean, even if you're making 30%+ more than you were 5 years ago, fuel has increased 100%, my weekly healthcare deduction has increased 60%, deductible is 100% more, etc...

Raising min wage isn't really going to help this problem. If anything, its going to make it worse. Bad economy + plethora of available workers + baby boomers that wont retire = stagnant wages.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Yvonne Dorsey-Colomb

Certifiable idiot
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:05 pm to
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social policy that we should be able to agree on


Wrong.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

In absolute terms, wages have stagnated. The free market isn't compensating. Raising the minimum wage is an issue of critical importance and should be done, but it doesn't address the fundamental issues afflicting our consumer economy...i.e. the growing chasm between the middle class and the wealthiest Americans.

A lot of people here criticize raising the minimum wage, as if liberals or progressives think it's a panacea. It isn't, and it isn't supposed to be. But it's still an important piece of social policy that we should be able to agree on.
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Monsieur Le Prince
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Member since Feb 2014
9 posts
And already have an avi?

Obvious troll alter is obvious.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Macro-economics isn't that simple.


Yet, you and the left seem to understand it so well?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:20 pm to
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If everyone is living better....why is this a problem?


This is what bothers me the most. Sure there is a gap between the haves and the have nots. But, take the haves out of the equation. How much better has the lives of the have nots improved over time in this country? It is unbelievable what the have nots actually HAVE.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19889 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:29 pm to
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Raising the minimum wage is an issue of critical importance and should be done


so what about the ones making more that minimum but less than 10, should they get a corresponding jump too?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:33 pm to
Anybody that seriously advocates the minimum wage, I automatically know they're economically illiterate.
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