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Chuck Season 5 SPOILERS
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:43 pm
Might be the worst season of a close to great show.
The whole season, just never knew what they wanted it to be. Ended in a TERRIBLE way for the overall tone of the series. Wasted their best villain for some 4-episode villain with a terrible arc that led to the bad ending.
Just bad all around.
The whole season, just never knew what they wanted it to be. Ended in a TERRIBLE way for the overall tone of the series. Wasted their best villain for some 4-episode villain with a terrible arc that led to the bad ending.
Just bad all around.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 7:31 am
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:18 pm to Freauxzen
I felt this way watching it live and then went back a year or two ago and rewatched the whole season, season 5 was much better the second watch.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:01 pm to Warfarer
This was my second watch...
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:02 pm to Freauxzen
I hated it. Girlfriend is watching it now and I can't even be in that room.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:07 pm to Freauxzen
Yea, it came off the rails at that time.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:26 pm to jmarto1
And it wasn't even just going off the rails...
It just ticked me off.
They ended at least 4 episodes in that season with everyone sitting around a table joking....
Which is exactly how they ended the show. They made it about Chuck and his ability to bring people together specifically those from vastly different background. Chuck humanized people, Casey and Sarah, while helping Morgan grow up and being a brother to Ellie. The love story with Sarah WASN'T really the main point, but, as always, we make it so. It was a good part of the show, but it just shouldn't have been the focus.
It just ticked me off.
They ended at least 4 episodes in that season with everyone sitting around a table joking....
Which is exactly how they ended the show. They made it about Chuck and his ability to bring people together specifically those from vastly different background. Chuck humanized people, Casey and Sarah, while helping Morgan grow up and being a brother to Ellie. The love story with Sarah WASN'T really the main point, but, as always, we make it so. It was a good part of the show, but it just shouldn't have been the focus.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:37 pm to Freauxzen
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but it just shouldn't have been the focus.
It causes the cliche' jumping of the shark. Focus too much on it and at some point people will want them together already.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:40 pm to jmarto1
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Focus too much on it and at some point people will want them together already.
I don't mind them being together at all....
But the show ended up with a big problem of evolution. NOTHING evolved, not even Chuck and Sarah after they tied the knot. Had the show learned how to grow, and let it's characters grow, it might have been better for Chuck and Sarah to get together.
But then they spent Season 3 on will they won't they get together, then season 4 on will they won't they get married. Then Season 5 on will they won't they quit the spy business.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:41 pm to Freauxzen
Yea, that sums it up 
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:44 pm to jmarto1
Sorry just venting. What a load of crap.
And I liked the show and most of the characters, but just wasted in the end.
AND THEY WASTED SHAW! WTF!
Ok still venting.
And I liked the show and most of the characters, but just wasted in the end.
AND THEY WASTED SHAW! WTF!
Ok still venting.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:59 pm to Freauxzen
even though you make some legit points. LA LA LA LA can't hear you, not listening LA LA LA LA
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:26 am to Freauxzen
My biggest beef with that last season was they tried to be way too dramatic. Everything fun and cool that happened at the end of the 4th season, they sabotaged and destroyed. With the the 4th season ended, the last one should've been a fun exploration of them getting their new business going with fun missions with the new intersect (I'm trying to not post anything too spoilery). But instead they just sabotaged everything. The show was supposed to be a freaking comedy, not a freaking drama.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 7:31 am to Bamatab
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My biggest beef with that last season was they tried to be way too dramatic. Everything fun and cool that happened at the end of the 4th season, they sabotaged and destroyed. With the the 4th season ended, the last one should've been a fun exploration of them getting their new business going with fun missions with the new intersect (I'm trying to not post anything too spoilery). But instead they just sabotaged everything. The show was supposed to be a freaking comedy, not a freaking drama.
Agreed.
Let the characters be successful, rather than running from something.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 7:59 am to Freauxzen
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Freauxzen
This show suffered immensely from "will they or wont they get another season."
I loved the show, and thought it was still pretty good despite the uncertainty surrounding it. But without being able to do story arcs knowing that they'll be relevant in the future, it made it difficult to establish multi season continuity.
By the time season 5 came around, knowing they had one more short season, I don't think they knew what else to do.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:41 am to elprez00
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By the time season 5 came around, knowing they had one more short season, I don't think they knew what else to do.
And they had good pieces, as a always, like Shaw, but they just put them together in the worst way.
Also, maybe if they would have got their heads straight, decided to let their characters evolved and crafted a better overall arc from Season 3 Forward....MAYBE they wouldn't have been in a will they won't they get another season. Maybe they would have been successful.
And I loved Morgan, maybe one of their best characters...until he got the intersect. He was insufferable the rest of the season.
I mean, if they needed a way to bring the show around, let them be successful at Carmicheal Industries, I have no idea why they avoided that. They took away money....TWICE. It was dumb.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:46 am to Freauxzen
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And they had good pieces, as a always, like Shaw, but they just put them together in the worst way.
Agreed. The Shaw arc in 5 was wasted.
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Also, maybe if they would have got their heads straight, decided to let their characters evolved and crafted a better overall arc from Season 3 Forward....MAYBE they wouldn't have been in a will they won't they get another season. Maybe they would have been successful
I mean, you can't fault the show writers for that. Damn NBC for not giving them a vote of confidence after the Subway/fan campaign. Plus, they had the show in a terrible timeslot.
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And I loved Morgan, maybe one of their best characters...until he got the intersect. He was insufferable the rest of the season.
Oh this. This this this.
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I mean, if they needed a way to bring the show around, let them be successful at Carmicheal Industries, I have no idea why they avoided that. They took away money....TWICE. It was dumb.
Yeah. It almost seemed like they were surprised they got the last season.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:47 am to Freauxzen
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And I loved Morgan, maybe one of their best characters...until he got the intersect. He was insufferable the rest of the season.
That could've actually be fun and hilarious if they would've done it right. But no, they decided to take him to a dark place.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:58 am to elprez00
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Yeah. It almost seemed like they were surprised they got the last season.
The big issue to me...it all started with the beginning of Season 4. They could have had a new Buy More, a new arc with Chuck on his own and Sarah and Casey with the CIA (that was Season worthy material), and taken the show in a familiar yet new, exciting direction.....
Then they had the thing with the "Buy More" being too efficient with all the undercover ops in place and that they had to, as Morgan said, "be 'more like the old Buy More.'" So all of the old employees parade into the store in this "victorious" scene.
What that told me: The writers were basically saying, we have no idea what to do with new characters, new storylines and a new evolution of the arc. So here is your old shite back. Back to square one. Have fun with the same stuff again. THe same Jeff and Lester. The same Morgan. The same Chuck. THe same everything. We aren't creative enough to do something new with the show, and we aren't apologizing for it, we are celebrating it.
I was kind of insulted by that.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 9:00 am
Posted on 2/25/14 at 9:18 am to Freauxzen
I'm ok with them keeping the same formula during that 4th season. It's not like they could've just left Jeff & Lester off the show.
But with that said, I do kind of wish that they would've stretched Chuck and Morgan's search for Chuck's mother out some more (at least for a few more episodes). And they were way too quick to blow up chuck's dad's secret lair. That would've been a gold mine for new missions that Chuck and Morgan (and Casey & Sarah or even Jeff & Lester if they decided to go that route (which could've been epic if done right)) could've gone on outside of the CIA missions and would've been great for Carmichael Industries in season 5.
But with that said, I do kind of wish that they would've stretched Chuck and Morgan's search for Chuck's mother out some more (at least for a few more episodes). And they were way too quick to blow up chuck's dad's secret lair. That would've been a gold mine for new missions that Chuck and Morgan (and Casey & Sarah or even Jeff & Lester if they decided to go that route (which could've been epic if done right)) could've gone on outside of the CIA missions and would've been great for Carmichael Industries in season 5.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 9:24 am
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:44 am to Freauxzen
bumpity bump bump.
just finished a 2 month viewing of the show on netflix.
i started it live, but got too far behind due to not having DVR at the time. We got into it on Thanksgiving break and slowly knocked it all out.
Season 5 was just brutal. i get that the show had been cancelled and renewed numerous times at that point, but they just couldn't get anything going once they got out of the formulaic love triangle. the ending itself was fine, along with the 2-3 episodes leading up to it, but the season as a whole was one big crapfest.
They could have happily ended it on the end of season 3, chuck vs. the push mix and even the end of season 4 after Volkoff gives them the money.
All in all great show that hit its stride halfway through season 2 all the way to half way to season 4.
Yvonne S is fine as frick. and i don't like blondes.
just finished a 2 month viewing of the show on netflix.
i started it live, but got too far behind due to not having DVR at the time. We got into it on Thanksgiving break and slowly knocked it all out.
Season 5 was just brutal. i get that the show had been cancelled and renewed numerous times at that point, but they just couldn't get anything going once they got out of the formulaic love triangle. the ending itself was fine, along with the 2-3 episodes leading up to it, but the season as a whole was one big crapfest.
They could have happily ended it on the end of season 3, chuck vs. the push mix and even the end of season 4 after Volkoff gives them the money.
All in all great show that hit its stride halfway through season 2 all the way to half way to season 4.
Yvonne S is fine as frick. and i don't like blondes.
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