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switching home state CC to La CC
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:41 pm
anybody have any info on this?
sooner or later i am moving back to La, will probably be this summer or fall
when i do, i am considering changing to La CC as it has better reciprocity that Va
So, here is the questions..
1. How diffcult will this be as far as paperwork? I would love to walk into the state office on corportate blvd and just say,"hey fellas, need to switch this over to the great state of Lo" and them say "no problem, biff! have fun being cocked and locked" and then i'll be all like,"Pew Pew Pew"
<--- like this
2. What type of fee am i looking at? cause i aint' about to fork over 500 or so bucks just to be able to carry in bama and Ga
3. I have ran into a little bit of trouble in my day with the law, by trouble I mean a couple boozing and cruising,(which I was acquitted for in one because of entrapment and not guilty in another because i blew a .06 at the station.. like a boss) a battery which i found not guilty and when i was nine i shot the back window out of dry cleaning van window who had come to my parents house to advertise some shite and kicked the shite out of my dog,(my DARE officer laughed once he finally got the truth out of me), and that is it..
I'm not gonna have to go downtown and "have a talk" with judge johnston or whoever it may be because of these past indiscretions am I?
4. How strict are they about people going out to a said establishment that serves alcohol and,"turning a blind eye", to a customer that has a few drinks but happens to be noticeably hip tucking,(it would be hard to observe on me even with a intense ocular pat-down)..
any help at all with any of these subjects would be gratefully appreciated
sooner or later i am moving back to La, will probably be this summer or fall
when i do, i am considering changing to La CC as it has better reciprocity that Va
So, here is the questions..
1. How diffcult will this be as far as paperwork? I would love to walk into the state office on corportate blvd and just say,"hey fellas, need to switch this over to the great state of Lo" and them say "no problem, biff! have fun being cocked and locked" and then i'll be all like,"Pew Pew Pew"
<--- like this
2. What type of fee am i looking at? cause i aint' about to fork over 500 or so bucks just to be able to carry in bama and Ga
3. I have ran into a little bit of trouble in my day with the law, by trouble I mean a couple boozing and cruising,(which I was acquitted for in one because of entrapment and not guilty in another because i blew a .06 at the station.. like a boss) a battery which i found not guilty and when i was nine i shot the back window out of dry cleaning van window who had come to my parents house to advertise some shite and kicked the shite out of my dog,(my DARE officer laughed once he finally got the truth out of me), and that is it..
I'm not gonna have to go downtown and "have a talk" with judge johnston or whoever it may be because of these past indiscretions am I?
4. How strict are they about people going out to a said establishment that serves alcohol and,"turning a blind eye", to a customer that has a few drinks but happens to be noticeably hip tucking,(it would be hard to observe on me even with a intense ocular pat-down)..
any help at all with any of these subjects would be gratefully appreciated
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:55 pm to Biff Tannen
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sooner or later i am moving back to La, will probably be this summer or fall
when i do, i am considering changing to La CC as it has better reciprocity that Va
As soon as you become a full time Louisiana resident I believe your VA permit won't be recognized in LA
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:20 pm to Biff Tannen
quote:
4. How strict are they about people going out to a said establishment that serves alcohol and,"turning a blind eye", to a customer that has a few drinks but happens to be noticeably hip tucking,(it would be hard to observe on me even with a intense ocular pat-down)..
The BAC limit when armed is .05% in Louisiana. This also applies if you are driving and firearm is simply enclosed in your vehicle.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:50 pm to bapple
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The BAC limit when armed is .05% in Louisiana. This also applies if you are driving and firearm is simply enclosed in your vehicle.
Interesting. Don't think I knew that. So you can't say, well, I think I'll have a couple of beers with my dinner so let me leave the gun in the truck before I go in this restaurant?? If you have 0.05 driving home from dinner with gun in your glove compartment and you get stopped, best to just tell the cops you aren't carrying and not mention the glove compartment?
I typically don't drink at all when carrying, but I had 1 beer at an engagement party Sat night and drove home with a gun under my seat...
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:08 pm to That's BS
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I think I'll have a couple of beers with my dinner so let me leave the gun in the truck before I go in this restaurant??
This is the gray area that I don't necessarily agree with as well. You just want to have a chill time and have a beer or two without harming or bothering anyone so you figure the responsible thing is to leave the gun in the car. Or if you're like most of us, a gun is in your car 24/7 so why go to the trouble to take it out if you're used to it being there? It ends up being a damn booby trap to make good guys bad.
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If you have 0.05 driving home from dinner with gun in your glove compartment and you get stopped, best to just tell the cops you aren't carrying and not mention the glove compartment?
If you have a CC permit and you don't inform the officer, when he runs your license he will find out you have a permit. Then if he finds out you had a firearm in your car and hid it from him you're in a serious realm of shite. There is a "Duty to Inform" in Louisiana in which you have to let him/her know it's there. It's another law that I don't necessarily agree with but will continue to follow.
Also field sobriety tests are very subjective in nature as well. Plus, running someone's BAC through a breathalyzer relies on the calibration of said breathalyzer, the perfection of the electronic equipment inside the tool, and ultimately, the officer's word against your own. When this tool simply measures the amount of ethanol on your breath but is accepted as fact whose word do you think the court will side with?
It sucks that it's a losing battle at this point for gun owners' freedoms but the best we can do is follow the law and try to change policy through the political process. Luckily I see America becoming more pro-gun as a whole so I think all of the grey area that automatically makes an average law-abiding criminal will continue to diminish.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:35 pm to bapple
I agree with just about all you said. And I know if carrying, as a CC holder, you have the duty to inform. But that applies even if you're not carrying (i.e. Locked in the glovebox)? What about if it's in the trunk of your car or in the toolbox of your truck where it's not easily accessible? I guess I assumed it was only if the gun was on your person...
Eta: I've read through the entire concealed carry laws on the state police's website. This is what it says:
"DUTIES OF PERMITTEES
The permit shall be retained by the permittee who shall immediately produce it upon the request of any law enforcement officer. Anyone who fails to do so shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars. Additionally, when any peace officer approaches a permittee in an official manner or with an identified purpose, the permittee shall:
Notify the officer that he has a weapon on his person;
Submit to a pat down;
Allow the officer to temporarily disarm him.
A permittee may not carry and conceal a handgun while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance (CDS) as defined in R.S. 40:961 and 964. For purposes of the concealed handgun law, a permittee is considered under the influence of alcohol when a blood alcohol reading of .05% or greater by weight of alcohol in the blood is obtained, or a blood or urine test shows any confirmed presence of a CDS.
The permit to carry a concealed handgun shall be revoked by the deputy secretary when the permittee is carrying and concealing a handgun under any of the following circumstances:
The blood alcohol reading of the permittee is .05% or greater by weight of alcohol in the blood;
The permittee's blood test or urine test shows the confirmed presence of a CDS as defined in R.S. 40:961 and 964;
The permittee refuses to submit to a department certified chemical test when requested to do so by a law enforcement officer."
That whole "conceal and carry" and "on his person" verbiage had/has me thinking this only applies if carrying.
Eta: I've read through the entire concealed carry laws on the state police's website. This is what it says:
"DUTIES OF PERMITTEES
The permit shall be retained by the permittee who shall immediately produce it upon the request of any law enforcement officer. Anyone who fails to do so shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars. Additionally, when any peace officer approaches a permittee in an official manner or with an identified purpose, the permittee shall:
Notify the officer that he has a weapon on his person;
Submit to a pat down;
Allow the officer to temporarily disarm him.
A permittee may not carry and conceal a handgun while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance (CDS) as defined in R.S. 40:961 and 964. For purposes of the concealed handgun law, a permittee is considered under the influence of alcohol when a blood alcohol reading of .05% or greater by weight of alcohol in the blood is obtained, or a blood or urine test shows any confirmed presence of a CDS.
The permit to carry a concealed handgun shall be revoked by the deputy secretary when the permittee is carrying and concealing a handgun under any of the following circumstances:
The blood alcohol reading of the permittee is .05% or greater by weight of alcohol in the blood;
The permittee's blood test or urine test shows the confirmed presence of a CDS as defined in R.S. 40:961 and 964;
The permittee refuses to submit to a department certified chemical test when requested to do so by a law enforcement officer."
That whole "conceal and carry" and "on his person" verbiage had/has me thinking this only applies if carrying.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:39 pm to That's BS
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What about if it's in the trunk of your car or in the toolbox of your truck where it's not easily accessible? I guess I assumed it was only if the gun was on your person...
I'm not sure about those specific scenarios as they are not defined in the laws shown on LSP.org. That would be something I would need to research.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:40 pm to bapple
I edited my previous post after you replied.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:43 pm to That's BS
I see. I just know that when I took my CC course and the information I continue to pass on to my students is that if it's in your car, it's in your best interest to tell the officer it's there. You may have nothing to hide and don't even want to go there, but by law you're required to here.
This shite pisses me off to no end but that's a completely different topic of law enforcement overreach and the slow evolution of the police state.
quote:
The permittee refuses to submit to a department certified chemical test when requested to do so by a law enforcement officer."
This shite pisses me off to no end but that's a completely different topic of law enforcement overreach and the slow evolution of the police state.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:37 pm to Glock17
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As soon as you become a full time Louisiana resident I believe your VA permit won't be recognized in LA
I got a La driver license in 2004-2005ish, I think '05. two years ago in October '12 I got a Va drivers license to vote in Va for the election,(didn't help..
...), so.. if I go back to La, reapply and revceive my La drivers license, what then? 
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