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If you could choose one current "intellectual"

Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:50 pm
Posted by stuntman
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:50 pm
to be more popular in our society, who would it be and why?

I'm gonna go w/ Tom Woods. His arguments seem to be iron clad and he argues his points in a very articulate, well mannered tone, which is the most persuasive way to debate IMO.

I think if more people knew about him and his arguments, minds would change about history, politics and economics pretty quickly.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 12:21 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:51 pm to
Noam
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:53 pm to
thomas sowell, since milton is dead
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:55 pm to
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Noam

i still have no idea what Noam's main principles are, and he goes back and forth on philosophies...sometimes within the same paragraph of the same statement
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:55 pm to
Sowell is good. I like Krauthammer, also..
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:55 pm to
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thomas sowell


Mr. "Obama is hitler" himself, eh?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:56 pm to
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and he goes back and forth on philosophies...sometimes within the same paragraph of the same statement


i don't get that from him, but i can see how a conservative would.
Posted by stuntman
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:59 pm to


Sowell was my second choice. He's the person that really started to changed the way I see the world...and he did it in the span of just one book, "The Vision of the Anointed".


Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:59 pm to
I find Noam to be a bit hypocritical. I don't think he realizes that government ownership of the means of production inevitably leads to unfree media and press.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:02 pm to
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Mr. "Obama is hitler" himself, eh?

Chomsky Warns of Risk of Fascism

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“I’m just old enough to have heard a number of Hitler’s speeches on the radio,” he said, “and I have a memory of the texture and the tone of the cheering mobs, and I have the dread sense of the dark clouds of fascism gathering” here at home.

Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:03 pm to
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Tom Woods


I agree.


Most other posters will put forth a name that is already popular, and Tom Woods is only known by those who get their news without the aid of the television.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:03 pm to
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I don't think he realizes that government ownership of the means of production inevitably leads to unfree media and press.


he's not a state socialist, he's a libertarian socialist.

although personally i do find him an extremist in that sense. I would like his writings on the media to be more circulated than they are.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:07 pm to
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quote:
Mr. "Obama is hitler" himself, eh?

Chomsky Warns of Risk of Fascism

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“I’m just old enough to have heard a number of Hitler’s speeches on the radio,” he said, “and I have a memory of the texture and the tone of the cheering mobs, and I have the dread sense of the dark clouds of fascism gathering” here at home.



did you read the article? he wasn't talking about Obama (although he's not a fan), he was talking about the reaction to Obama.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:07 pm to
I would choose Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard, Tom Woods and basically make Ron Paul more eloquent with his dialogue.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:09 pm to
Three way tie:

Woods
Sowell
Williams
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:10 pm to
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he's a libertarian socialist.

noam believes in anarchy under an organized, federal structure and believe libertarianism is a form of tyranny

like i said, his views are hypocritical. his whole schtick is like one big philosophy attempting to gather all talking points/memes of liberal-progressive thought. he uses big words and uses confusing wording to never derive a coherent, single philosophy

he celebrates socialist societies then claims he supports freedom. he calls limited government tyranny and supports anarchism...under a larger federal structure eliminating liberty and forcing a form of organization
Posted by stuntman
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:11 pm to
Speaking of Rothbard, does anyone here have a link to him debating? I've seen his lectures and read some of his stuff, but I've never seen or read a debate of his.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:11 pm to
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did you read the article? he wasn't talking about Obama

i never said sowell was perfect. he's gotten very crunchy in his old age. i much prefer his work in the 70s and 80s

but, the point was, a Reductio ad Hitlerum argument is a logical fallacy regardless of who says it

chomsky is just as guilty as sowell. neither are perfect in that respect
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Williams

yeah i'll bump sowell down and go with walter
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:13 pm to
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yeah i'll bump sowell down and go with walter
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