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Obama Democrats’ troubling view on work

Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10832 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:37 pm
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All true and yet, as Carney’s defense showed, something much, much larger is at play. The impacts are symptoms. The disease is that leading Democrats view fewer workers and more dependency as a good thing. That attitude largely explains slow economic growth, record-low labor rates and the explosion of handouts over the last five years.

This anti-job, pro-dependency tilt is the crux of the nation’s polarization. In essence, it pits those who believe in the sanctity of work against those who believe in penalizing wealth and redistributing its fruits.

Not all Democrats agree with that approach, but the party is now controlled by those who do. It is the party that celebrates subsidies and rewards states for getting more people on food stamps. It opens the door wider for disability payments and fights for unemployment benefits like it once fought for jobs. It does these things not because of an emergency but because of a warped ideology.

As such, it has broken with the heritage celebrated on the postage stamps and in the hearts and minds of generations. In that America, work, any work, was honorable while being on the dole was cause for shame. Still is.

Yes, work itself has changed and many manufacturing and factory jobs have disappeared. Yet the most troubling change has nothing to do with the kind of work and everything to do with attitudes and values about work.

The stigma attached to getting something for nothing is being replaced by an endless demand for more free stuff. One party is stoking that demand as it moves from being the working-class party to the entitlement party.

That revelation counts as the silver lining of ObamaCare. We now have it straight from the White House and Congress that creating jobs is not really their goal. Instead, the president’s singular piece of legislation is a success because it helps people get healthcare while avoiding work. That is the Obama legacy. It should be celebrated with postage stamps featuring couch potatoes dozing in front of televisions.


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Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Instead, the president’s singular piece of legislation is a success because it helps people get healthcare while avoiding work.

How does it pay their mortgage, put clothes on their backs, gas in their vehicles, food on the table?
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10777 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78653 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:48 pm to
What does it matter at this point, really? Their views on such things aren't annoying, they are societally catastrophic and their vision is in Full Bloom. Just carve out YOUR NICHE, steal as much back from them as you can, frick with them when the opportunity presents, and be happy in your own life.

I mean, at this point, what is there even left to say.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:44 pm to
As predicted, the democrats are embracing the French perception of work, in that it is inherently bad.

Something to ponder, the very democrats that are espousing not working and the merits thereof continue to work.

They are just picking the low hanging fruit to build a voting base monopoly that is dependent on the government.

It is actually pretty smart in the short term in securing political victories.

In the long term, however, when austerity kicks in you will see a revolution...possibly not in our lifetimes, but it will happen if we continue down this road - which seems inevitable.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:47 pm to
The entire leftist economic viewpoint is a belief that it is disgusting that there is a price system. You see it in their view on health care, housing, and child day care.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:49 pm to
What is sad is the US has Europe as an example of what not to do, and it is as if we are blueprinting our future on their past failures.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:56 pm to
The problem for the Dems is their utopia ideology is at least several hundred years sooner than realistically possible. As such, their policies like France has led our nation into a decline. Their logical way out will inevitably be to raise taxes and then the productive will invest elsewhere with quickness. There really is no free lunch at least not yet until technology catches up with their Star Trek visions and even then slackers will not be tolerated.
Posted by Teton Tiger
Somewhere between here and there.
Member since Mar 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:57 pm to
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How does it pay their mortgage, put clothes on their backs, gas in their vehicles, food on the table?
Next election platform.
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4449 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:59 pm to
Its the Sixties, yo.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:09 pm to
Another circle-jerk argument where all you guys decide the way the world works when in fact it is not.

Also, the guy repeats the falsehood of 2.5MM jobs.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112486 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:09 pm to
This is actually not only politics but very much sociology and psychology. I posted on this board the story of my nephew.

He was a committed Marxist. He believed that some people are 'not cut out' for working. His hero was Noam Chomsky. He worked odd jobs as a waiter to live and kept getting money from his dad, my brother.

Then, in his late 30s he fell into a job that was rewarded by a skill in video. Now, nearing 40, he hates paying taxes.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29172 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:12 pm to
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Then, in his late 30s he fell into a job that was rewarded by a skill in video. Now, nearing 40, he hates paying taxes.

Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Another circle-jerk argument


You're here for your facial.


quote:

Also, the guy repeats the falsehood of 2.5MM jobs.



The 2.5 million number came from the same CBO that Obama and the dems used to promote Obamacare when they hadn't given the CBO all the information about the law they were to pass. Now, unless you are a prophet, how do you know it's a falsehood. Is it a falsehood like "You can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor."
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:20 pm to
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fewer workers and more dependency as a good thing.


There are just too many people. Mother Gaia keeps getting gashed by the human infestation. She shows her rage by tornadoes, hurricanes, thunderstorms, tsunamis, and earthquakes. We're just not listening.

WE'RE JUST NOT LISTENING!!!
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Another circle-jerk argument where all you guys decide the way the world works when in fact it is not.


Gotta give you a high five for not playing the race card. I'll give you a B-, but note you're making progress.
Posted by Bushwackers
Ridin' shotgun with Reese Bobby!
Member since Dec 2006
3788 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Another circle-jerk argument where all you guys decide the way the world works when in fact it is not


Alright, usually I just read with out comments or questions, but I am listening. Please tell me how the world works and on top of that please share with me what you do for a living? Self employed? Student?
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