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The OT Book Club and Literary Society, week of 2-10
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:01 am
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:01 am
Feel free to discuss old books, new books, good books, bad books...
Short story of the week:
"Guest of the Nation" by Frank O'Connor
Read it online, discuss it here, smoke if you got 'em
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Jack Kerouac’s Hand-Drawn Map of the Hitchhiking Trip Narrated in On the Road
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The Prince of Patchin Place
Buffalo Bill's
Buffalo Bill's
defunct
who used to
ride a watersmooth-silver
stallion
and break onetwothreefourfive pigeonsjustlikethat
Jesus
he was a handsome man
and what i want to know is
how do you like your blueeyed boy
Mister Death
-- e e cummings
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Russian 'kills friend in argument over whether poetry or prose is better'
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Don DeLillo: The Word, The Image and The Gun (BBC-TV Omnibus, 1991) -- Fascinating documentary even if you're unfamiliar with DeLillo, especially if you are interested in the JFK assassination.
“Isolation, solitude, secret plotting. A novel is a secret a writer may keep for years before he lets it out of his room. Writers in hiding, writers in prison. Sometimes their secrets turn out to be dangerous to the state machine. For most writers in the West of course this danger is extremely remote. The cells we live in are strictly personal constructions.”
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Charlie Chaplin's only novel published for the first time
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Texas
Here too. Here as at the other
Edge of the hemisphere, an endless plain
Where a man’s cry dies a lonely death.
Here too the Indian, the lasso, the wild horse.
Here too the bird that never shows itself,
That sings for the memory of one evening
Over the rumblings of history
Here too the mystic alphabet of stars
Leading my pen over the page to names
Not swept aside in the continual
Labyrinth of Days: San Jacinto
And that other Thermopylae, the Alamo.
Here too, the never understood
Anxious, and brief affair that is life.
-- Jorge Louis Borges
===============
Previous meetings of the society:
10-16
11-11
11-25
12-9
12-16
1-7
1-20
"There is only one way to read, which is to browse in libraries and bookshops, picking up books that attract you, reading only those, dropping them when they bore you, skipping the parts that drag; and never, never reading anything because you feel you ought, or because it is part of a trend or a movement. Remember that the book which bores you when you are twenty or thirty will open doors for you when you are forty or fifty; and vice versa. Don't read a book out of its right time for you." -- Doris Lessing
London bookstore after an air raid, 1940:
Short story of the week:
"Guest of the Nation" by Frank O'Connor
Read it online, discuss it here, smoke if you got 'em
================
Jack Kerouac’s Hand-Drawn Map of the Hitchhiking Trip Narrated in On the Road
================
The Prince of Patchin Place
quote:
Now remembered largely for his funky punctuation, E. E. Cummings was for decades one of America’s most celebrated, controversial, and popular poets—the dashing, impecunious prince of Greenwich Village. In an adaptation from her new biography of Cummings, Susan Cheever recalls one winter night in 1958 when the Harris Tweed-clad modernist, a longtime friend and mentor to her novelist father, rocked her teenage world.
Buffalo Bill's
Buffalo Bill's
defunct
who used to
ride a watersmooth-silver
stallion
and break onetwothreefourfive pigeonsjustlikethat
Jesus
he was a handsome man
and what i want to know is
how do you like your blueeyed boy
Mister Death
-- e e cummings
=================
Russian 'kills friend in argument over whether poetry or prose is better'
quote:
Investigators say drunken literary dispute led to 53-year-old former teacher, who preferred poetry, killing friend with knife
The killing came four months after an argument over the theories of the 18th-century German philosopher Immanuel Kant ended in a man being shot in a grocery store in southern Russia
==============
Don DeLillo: The Word, The Image and The Gun (BBC-TV Omnibus, 1991) -- Fascinating documentary even if you're unfamiliar with DeLillo, especially if you are interested in the JFK assassination.
“Isolation, solitude, secret plotting. A novel is a secret a writer may keep for years before he lets it out of his room. Writers in hiding, writers in prison. Sometimes their secrets turn out to be dangerous to the state machine. For most writers in the West of course this danger is extremely remote. The cells we live in are strictly personal constructions.”
quote:Don DeLillo interviewed by the Paris Review
Don DeLillo (born November 20, 1936) is an American writer of novels, short stories, plays and essays. His works have covered subjects as diverse as television, nuclear war, sports, the complexities of language, performance art, the Cold War, mathematics, the advent of the digital age, and global terrorism. Initially a well-regarded cult writer, the publication in 1985 of White Noise brought him widespread recognition, and was followed in 1988 by Libra, a bestseller. DeLillo has twice been a Pulitzer Prize for Fiction finalist (for Mao II in 1992 and for Underworld in 1998), won the PEN/Faulkner Award for Mao II in 1992.
DeLillo has described his fiction as being concerned with "living in dangerous times", and in a 2005 interview declared, "Writers must oppose systems. It's important to write against power, corporations, the state, and the whole system of consumption and of debilitating entertainments ... I think writers, by nature, must oppose things, oppose whatever power tries to impose on us." -- Wikipedia
==============
Charlie Chaplin's only novel published for the first time
==============
Texas
Here too. Here as at the other
Edge of the hemisphere, an endless plain
Where a man’s cry dies a lonely death.
Here too the Indian, the lasso, the wild horse.
Here too the bird that never shows itself,
That sings for the memory of one evening
Over the rumblings of history
Here too the mystic alphabet of stars
Leading my pen over the page to names
Not swept aside in the continual
Labyrinth of Days: San Jacinto
And that other Thermopylae, the Alamo.
Here too, the never understood
Anxious, and brief affair that is life.
-- Jorge Louis Borges
===============
Previous meetings of the society:
10-16
11-11
11-25
12-9
12-16
1-7
1-20
"There is only one way to read, which is to browse in libraries and bookshops, picking up books that attract you, reading only those, dropping them when they bore you, skipping the parts that drag; and never, never reading anything because you feel you ought, or because it is part of a trend or a movement. Remember that the book which bores you when you are twenty or thirty will open doors for you when you are forty or fifty; and vice versa. Don't read a book out of its right time for you." -- Doris Lessing
London bookstore after an air raid, 1940:
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:07 am to Kafka
Somebody help me out. I remember reading some excerpts from a book about Eisenhower and how he managed the egos, stress, and people involved in planning Overlord. Google hasn't helped. Anyone know the name?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:24 am to Kafka
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:27 am to Kafka
The OT Literary Society? This is about right.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:32 am to elprez00
Just finished Backcountry Lawman, by Bob H Lee.
LINK /
Four of the chapters in this book are dedicated to Lee's thirty year pursuit of Roger Gunter, now on History Channel's Axe Men, Chapman Logging.
Mr. Gunter and lee have now become good friends and fishing buddies after their retirement.
In the underbelly of Florida, hardened poachers operate in the dark, out of sight and away from residents who sleep soundly through the night. But poachers are not the only midnight hunters. In the state’s public wilderness tracts, cattle ranches, and water courses, wildlife thieves are stealthily and silently tracked.
Most people have never imagined the often dicey, comical, and sometimes bizarre job of a Florida game warden. Backcountry Lawman tells what it’s like to catch an armed poacher in the act—alone, at night, without backup or a decent radio to call for help. These stories describe the cat-and-mouse games often played between game wardens and poachers of ducks, turkeys, hogs, deer, gators, and other species. Few people realize that “monkey fishing”—electrocution of catfish—had the same outlaw mystique in the rivers of Florida as moonshining once did in the hills of Georgia and Tennessee.
With thirty years of backcountry patrol experience in Florida, Bob Lee has lived through incidents of legend, including one of the biggest environmental busts in Florida history. His fascinating memoir reveals the danger and the humor in the unsung exploits of game wardens.
LINK /
Four of the chapters in this book are dedicated to Lee's thirty year pursuit of Roger Gunter, now on History Channel's Axe Men, Chapman Logging.
Mr. Gunter and lee have now become good friends and fishing buddies after their retirement.
In the underbelly of Florida, hardened poachers operate in the dark, out of sight and away from residents who sleep soundly through the night. But poachers are not the only midnight hunters. In the state’s public wilderness tracts, cattle ranches, and water courses, wildlife thieves are stealthily and silently tracked.
Most people have never imagined the often dicey, comical, and sometimes bizarre job of a Florida game warden. Backcountry Lawman tells what it’s like to catch an armed poacher in the act—alone, at night, without backup or a decent radio to call for help. These stories describe the cat-and-mouse games often played between game wardens and poachers of ducks, turkeys, hogs, deer, gators, and other species. Few people realize that “monkey fishing”—electrocution of catfish—had the same outlaw mystique in the rivers of Florida as moonshining once did in the hills of Georgia and Tennessee.
With thirty years of backcountry patrol experience in Florida, Bob Lee has lived through incidents of legend, including one of the biggest environmental busts in Florida history. His fascinating memoir reveals the danger and the humor in the unsung exploits of game wardens.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:51 am to Themole
Medal of Honor: Roy Benevidez. Great story not only about the military heroics but his struggle growing up. Great video of him on youtube.
Shovel Ready: Adam Sternbergh. Garbage man one day hit man the next. From the new authors section at BnN. Really good.
Shovel Ready: Adam Sternbergh. Garbage man one day hit man the next. From the new authors section at BnN. Really good.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:27 am to Kafka
Just finished Bernard Cornwell's The Pagan Lord. Latest in the Saxon series, and typical of his Medieval Britain historical fiction. Which is to say, awesome.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:32 am to biglego
Just finished McCulloughs 1776 and next up is Ariely's Predictably Irrational...
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:36 am to Kafka
Good, quick, easy read with some sweet stories about how being a college football player gets you lots of perks and how people cover it up for you.
Reading this one now, not as good as I hoped but pretty sweet how they relate football to real life.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:37 am to Kafka
I'm reading Reamde by Neal Stephenson. I'm about 400 pages in and liking it so far.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:54 am to Kafka
day trader's guide to technical analysis
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:51 am to S
So what is better, poetry or prose?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:01 am to fr33manator
quote:
So what is better, poetry or prose?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:03 am to biglego
Just dove into The Origins of Totalitarianism ..probably be on this one for a while
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:09 am to REG861
Saw Sister Helen Prejean speak last week. Picked up her latest book, The Death of Innocence. I feel alot of folks on this board should read a book like this concerning capital punishment. It would very much enlighten them.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:10 am to Kafka
Just finished:
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
Currently reading:
The Demonologist
Let the Great World Spin
Silver Linings Playbook
The Principal's Legal Handbook (taking up most of my reading time)
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
Currently reading:
The Demonologist
Let the Great World Spin
Silver Linings Playbook
The Principal's Legal Handbook (taking up most of my reading time)
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:14 am to brgfather129
quote:This thread isn't just to list shite
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
Any opinion on it? I've seen the movie but never read the book
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:39 am to Kafka
One Second After by William R. Forstchen -- scary look at America after an EMP attack.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:32 am to Kafka
Tinkers by Paul Harding.
The story revolves around the last few days of a man's life. Bedridden, he reminisces about his life, his thoughts leading to stories about his own past and of his family (especially his father), and these tales form strands of narrative that reveal something about him.
It won the Pulitzer Prize for fiction in 2010, but gets very mixed reviews from readers on Good Reads, Barnes & Nobles, etc. The main criticisms I noticed at a glance seem to be that some readers think the story is pointless; others are critical of Harding's use of language... his writing sort of switches from plain prose to something more like poetry. Those critics consider this stylistic change to be an unnecessary/perhaps vain parlour trick that does nothing to enhance the story.
Personally, I really liked it. The criticism that the story doesn't really have much of a point has some validity in the sense that the man is already dying and the book is reliving his past. It is, therefore, not plot/action driven. It is more like the author is slowly drawing a painting for his audience and the enjoyment comes from appreciating the journey and skill with which he tells the story. And I think he does this well.
Regarding criticisms of Harding's use of language, that's a matter of personal taste in the same way some people like hard rock but don't like country, while others like hip-hop, etc. Again, I really enjoyed it. I think Harding has an incredible ability to breathe life into details that makes the reader feel like he is actually present in the story. And his writing resonates with a very distinct cadence at times. Note: Harding is apparently also a drummer, and I think I read an interview where he discusses how his appreciation for rhythm as a drummer influenced the rhythm of his language.
Note 2: He is also related to the infamous Tanya Harding.
Here's a link to one interview with the author I enjoyed:
LINK
The story revolves around the last few days of a man's life. Bedridden, he reminisces about his life, his thoughts leading to stories about his own past and of his family (especially his father), and these tales form strands of narrative that reveal something about him.
It won the Pulitzer Prize for fiction in 2010, but gets very mixed reviews from readers on Good Reads, Barnes & Nobles, etc. The main criticisms I noticed at a glance seem to be that some readers think the story is pointless; others are critical of Harding's use of language... his writing sort of switches from plain prose to something more like poetry. Those critics consider this stylistic change to be an unnecessary/perhaps vain parlour trick that does nothing to enhance the story.
Personally, I really liked it. The criticism that the story doesn't really have much of a point has some validity in the sense that the man is already dying and the book is reliving his past. It is, therefore, not plot/action driven. It is more like the author is slowly drawing a painting for his audience and the enjoyment comes from appreciating the journey and skill with which he tells the story. And I think he does this well.
Regarding criticisms of Harding's use of language, that's a matter of personal taste in the same way some people like hard rock but don't like country, while others like hip-hop, etc. Again, I really enjoyed it. I think Harding has an incredible ability to breathe life into details that makes the reader feel like he is actually present in the story. And his writing resonates with a very distinct cadence at times. Note: Harding is apparently also a drummer, and I think I read an interview where he discusses how his appreciation for rhythm as a drummer influenced the rhythm of his language.
Note 2: He is also related to the infamous Tanya Harding.
Here's a link to one interview with the author I enjoyed:
LINK
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 5:46 pm
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