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Obama Aides: Hillary Is Repeating The Mistakes She Made In 2008

Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:43 am
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:43 am
I thought that Hillary would have learned her lesson about running on the aura of inevitability, but apparently not.
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Top advisers and former aides to Barack Obama say Hillary Clinton is repeating the mistakes she made in 2008, building a machine in lieu of a message and lumbering toward the Democratic nomination with the same deep vulnerabilities that cost her the nomination eight years earlier.

The former secretary of state has offered her tacit blessing to a series of Democratic organizations, including a draft group, Ready for Hillary, which was recently taken over by a former Clinton aide; and Priorities USA Action, the Obama super PAC repositioning itself to raise huge sums for Clinton. The moves have been effective in telegraphing to other would-be candidates that they may have a hard time raising money and building an organization, and in establishing the sense of inevitability that was central to her 2008 campaign — a perception that also backfired badly.

“I just don’t see any strategic value in stories positioning her as inevitable or the pre-emptive nominee, and I don’t think people who are out there talking about this help her, and I think she should make that clear,” said Joel Benenson, Obama’s chief campaign pollster and now the top White House pollster. “She doesn’t need this. If she decides to run for president, everybody knows she’s going to be able to raise money, everybody knows she’s going to be extremely formidable, that she’s going to have a significant network of supporters around the country — so what’s the value of all this in 2014?”

In 2008, that sense of inevitability had tactical consequences: her positions drew more scrutiny than her rivals’, and observers developed a rooting interest in the underdog, while donors and operatives who hadn’t gotten in on the Clinton ground floor 20 years earlier went elsewhere. And Obama aides, who outmaneuvered the Clinton juggernaut seven years ago, see similar weaknesses developing already.

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By the way, she still hasn't done a mea culpa for her Iraq War vote and she still hasn't weighed in on Obama's Iran peace initiative.
Posted by eelsuee
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:20 am to
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I thought that Hillary would have learned her lesson about running on the aura of inevitability, but apparently not.
I don't agree with this, the plan didn't backfire. She was a close second in the race to become president with John McCain a distant 3rd. Her mistakes were later in the game when she believed she had it won and didn't attack Obama sooner. If she could enter the voting (primaries) again as the favorite, then her plan getting to that point was a good one.

With that said, I hope a meteor falls out of the sky and lands on her.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:23 am
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:22 am to
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I don't agree with this, the plan didn't backfire. She was a close second in the race to become president with John McCain a distant 3rd. Her mistakes were later in the game when she believed she had it won and didn't attack Obama sooner.

At what point did she think she had it won? Obama lead from the opening bell in Iowa, at which point Hillary played catch-up until the very end.
Posted by eelsuee
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Member since Oct 2004
4503 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:29 am to
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At what point did she think she had it won? Obama lead from the opening bell in Iowa, at which point Hillary played catch-up until the very end.
Your OP is referring to her strategy right now (before the primaries) and saying it is the same mistake as last time. Her pre-primary strategy last time was great.

She remained overconfident after she started losing states early. The 3am phone call attacks were effective but she started slinging mud way to late. She didn't start attacking Obama until she was in desperation mode.

ETA: There is so much competition for Iowa that the favorites often elect to spend their resources elsewhere because they don't need the early name recognition. Losing Iowa didn't matter nearly as much as not treating Obama as a threat earlier.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:34 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:33 am to
quote:

I thought that Hillary would have learned her lesson about running on the aura of inevitability,


quote:

Top advisers and former aides to Barack Obama say Hillary Clinton is repeating the mistakes she made in 2008,


While I understand their point, I don't see it's relevance yet considering the first primaries are two years away. But people have to find things to write about I guess so we get this story.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:33 am to
I hope someone, either during the primary or presidential election does a spin-off of her "who do you want answering the phone" commercial. The commercial that she made implying she was better suited to handled foreign relations because she LIVED in the White House.

This time around have a red phone ringing and show "Benghazi" listed on the caller ID as the phone continues to ring and ring. A voice then says, as phone continues to ring..."Can you really count on Hillary to answer the phone"?
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:38 am to
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By the way, she still hasn't done a mea culpa for her Iraq War vote


Maybe she has principles and honestly believes she made the best decision based on the information she had at the time.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:10 am to
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I hope someone, either during the primary or presidential election does a spin-off of her "who do you want answering the phone" commercial. The commercial that she made implying she was better suited to handled foreign relations because she LIVED in the White House.

This time around have a red phone ringing and show "Benghazi" listed on the caller ID as the phone continues to ring and ring. A voice then says, as phone continues to ring..."Can you really count on Hillary to answer the phone"?

If she gets the nomination, I'm sure the Republicans will be all over this.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79677 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:31 am to
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If she gets the nomination, I'm sure the Republicans will be all over this.


It won't come to that because she won't get that far.
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