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UK Man wants guns legalized

Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:29 pm
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The Ukip leader has said it is party policy for hand guns to be legalised and licensed in the UK despite being banned in the UK for the last 18 years.

Mr Farage said the current ban on the guns, which were made illegal following the school shooting at Dunblane in 1996, was “ludicrous.”

Speaking on LBC Radio Mr Farage said that it was Ukip policy to create a “proper licensing policy” and that people who kept hand guns responsibility locked up and had were willing to get an official license should “absolutely” be allowed them.


quote:

Peter Squires, professor of criminology at Brighton University and a member of Association of Police Officer’s advisory group on the criminal use of fire arms said that Mr Farage’s comments were "irresponsible".

He said: “If public safety is a consideration then it’s a particularly stupid thing to say. It opens up the problem that we have almost dealt with successfully.

"It will generate a demand, it will generate illegal traffic around that demand – the problem with hand guns is that they are small and concealable and they are already the weapon of choice of gangs members and criminals.”


However, this next quote by Farage is funny to me..

quote:

Mr Farage said: “I would not like us to go to the American System which strikes me as being absolutely crazy that you can go and buy automatic repeating rifles down at a local gun shop that looks more like a supermarket.


And then...

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Keith Vaz, the chair of the home affairs committe, said Britain has the toughest gun laws in the world and strong action had been needed following the "horrific tragedy" at Dunblaine.

He added: "The logical consequence of relaxing gun laws, as suggested by Mr Farage, is an increase in gun use which should be discouraged rather than encouraged. Any change could possibly act as a green light for an increase in criminality.

"Our legislation makes Britain a beacon of safety and it would be completely irresponsible to change the law governing hand guns."


This is a cautionary tale for us Americans and what the left and gun grabbers dream of in this country one day.

Never compromise with them.

LINK
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:09 pm to
Poliboard, I am disappoint.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Never compromise with them.
This couldn't be more true. The anti-gunners are a very patient group. The continue to chip away at gun rights (under the guise of "sensible regulations") at a slow but steady pace. One need only to look at CA, Il or NY to see what the act of "compromise" will get you.

Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51693 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:06 pm to
Crimes in the UK involving guns have been on the rise over the past few years, with last year being the largest amount of gun crimes in the UK since 1993.

LINK

Soooo... yeah.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8399 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:49 pm to






and the idiots over here want to control guns
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

This is a cautionary tale for us Americans and what the left and gun grabbers dream of in this country one day.

Never compromise with them.

It's not a matter of compromising, it's a matter of amending the constitution. The British and the Australians had nothing in their constitutions protecting their gun rights.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73451 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:35 pm to
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The British and the Australians had nothing in their constitutions protecting their gun rights.

Poor
Bastards.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:39 pm to
And don't forget that it takes 38 states to amend the constitution, or put another way, it only takes 13 states to protect the Second Amendment.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73451 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:41 pm to
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And don't forget that it takes 38 states to amend the constitution, or put another way, it only takes 13 states to protect the Second Amendment.
Good if not cocksuckers would have killed it already.
Posted by fleaux
section 0
Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:45 pm to
That does not equal up to 57 states
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

And don't forget that it takes 38 states to amend the constitution, or put another way, it only takes 13 states to protect the Second Amendment.


According to the Dear Leader, the Constitution doesn't matter because the Dear Leader has a pen. And, everyone knows that an Obama Executive Order trumps the Constitution, just ask Ruth Ginsburg, she'll agree.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8399 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

And don't forget that it takes 38 states to amend the constitution



or activist judges
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:09 pm to
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or activist judges

The SCOTUS has already ruled that the Second Amendment protects the right to private gun ownership for personal protection, aside from "a well regulated militia".
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:17 pm to
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The SCOTUS has already ruled that the Second Amendment protects the right to private gun ownership for personal protection, aside from "a well regulated militia".



By a 5-4 ruling.

Some of our freedoms are literally hanging by a freaking thread.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:34 pm to
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By a 5-4 ruling.

Some of our freedoms are literally hanging by a freaking thread.


And we have two conservative justices that are hanging on baby a thread. If those two can make it to 2016 still in place, we'll have dodged a political torpedo of Obama filling those vacances with liberals and thus making the SCOTUS liberal for at least a generation.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:52 pm to
I don't see the gun issue as a liberal issue as much as it is a regional issue, because southern and rural Democrats (eg. John Tester, Joe Manchin) and more pro-gun than urban and northeastern Republicans (eg. Peter King, Mark Kirk). What worries me about Obama's appointees is that they were both born and raised in New York City. If he had appointed a couple of southern and/or rural liberals, the Second Amendment would be safe for the time being. By the way, why do both Republican and Democrat Presidents feel that members of the SCOTUS must have an Ivy League pedigree anyway?
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 9:54 pm
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