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Negotiating a Salary for a non-salesman
Posted on 1/25/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 4:57 pm
I say non-saleman because I couldn't sell water to you if you were on fire.
I have an informal job offer that should become formal in the next two weeks after an approval process for a position that is being created for me. I have consulted with this organization in the past and they approached me this week gauging my interest.
I am somewhat excited about the opportunity, but I feel like the offer is going to come in exactly what I am making now. The benefits are vastly different, but balance each other out on the bottom line. For example, I receive a healthy match to my 401k now, but the new job does not match, but they pay my full health insurance while my current job doesn't.
Question is, how do I go about negotiating? I would probably take "same money" but I feel like the job is worth a little more. How much do you ask over their offer? 10%, 5%?? Completely clueless.
Also, I lose a decent amount in consulting income if I am working for this organization. Should that be factored in? And there is one big fringe benefit that they offer that I'm not sure that I would use otherwise, should that be factored in?
I have an informal job offer that should become formal in the next two weeks after an approval process for a position that is being created for me. I have consulted with this organization in the past and they approached me this week gauging my interest.
I am somewhat excited about the opportunity, but I feel like the offer is going to come in exactly what I am making now. The benefits are vastly different, but balance each other out on the bottom line. For example, I receive a healthy match to my 401k now, but the new job does not match, but they pay my full health insurance while my current job doesn't.
Question is, how do I go about negotiating? I would probably take "same money" but I feel like the job is worth a little more. How much do you ask over their offer? 10%, 5%?? Completely clueless.
Also, I lose a decent amount in consulting income if I am working for this organization. Should that be factored in? And there is one big fringe benefit that they offer that I'm not sure that I would use otherwise, should that be factored in?
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 4:59 pm
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:07 pm to anc
Everthing is factored in Don't forget you are paying SE Tax now and when you go to work the Company picks up half- that is another~7%
Most of us want to work for ourselves. What is driving you to work for someone else? Your time will now be theirs.
I would think long and hard and if the offer came in low my counter may be a long term contract as a contract employee-
Most of us want to work for ourselves. What is driving you to work for someone else? Your time will now be theirs.
I would think long and hard and if the offer came in low my counter may be a long term contract as a contract employee-
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:15 pm to 756
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Most of us want to work for ourselves. What is driving you to work for someone else? Your time will now be theirs.
You are always working for someone else. If you are "working for yourself" that goes double.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:41 pm to anc
Last job offer, I asked for 12% over their first offer, and settled for 5% over their first offer. I took a substantial paycut for lifestyle reasons over my previous job (much less workload, less weekends, reliable vacation coverage).
If they've already made the offer and have vetted you, they're not going to let you walk for 5%, or maybe even 10%, especially since they know the quality of your work through your consulting. Of course this depends on your occupation, but it's not like you are an elementary school teacher that are a dime a dozen.
If they've already made the offer and have vetted you, they're not going to let you walk for 5%, or maybe even 10%, especially since they know the quality of your work through your consulting. Of course this depends on your occupation, but it's not like you are an elementary school teacher that are a dime a dozen.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:28 am to anc
You're a consultant. If you work for someone and they farm you out they are already paying a rate that is higher than what you actually make. Try to agree on a number that is between what you make and what you are billed out for currently.
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