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So Who's Phish?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:48 pm
Cliff notes on the greatness or lack there of of this band?
I've always known there was a band Phish....but I've never heard their music.
What songs should I try to listen to?
I've always known there was a band Phish....but I've never heard their music.
What songs should I try to listen to?
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:51 pm to DeathValley85
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:52 pm to Buddy Garrity
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:56 pm to Buddy Garrity
someone was on a downvoting mission in that thread...i thought rustled jimmies were reserved for the SEC rant? 
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:57 pm to DeathValley85
Avoid their studio versions at all costs.
Start off with A Live One to get your taste buds going then progress from there
Start off with A Live One to get your taste buds going then progress from there
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:59 pm to DeathValley85
So when Phish "jams" how much is improvised and how much is rehearsed? When they create their setlist for the night do they say ok in the middle of this song Trey will jam hard and then the next song Page will lead off the jam at this point and then another member will join in on that jam and finish it off funky. Do the members just feed off each other and play the jam until it feels right. Are the jams always in the same spots or different? I've never really understood how the Phish fans rate all of these songs differently. Is it all based on the jams?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:06 pm to PearlsLSU
They play a song and there is an fairly standard outro from the song to the jam. They play around with the central theme of the song for a while and either start a new song, or improvise in a separate direction completely.
They don't write setlists. They have an idea of stuff they haven't played recently and they figure the sets out as they go. Like the dead there are songs that have certain usual placements. Some songs are first set songs, some second set, some openers, some set closers, and some encores.
But yes for the most part judging the different versions is about the jams.
This is a good breakdown of the way they jam: LINK
They don't write setlists. They have an idea of stuff they haven't played recently and they figure the sets out as they go. Like the dead there are songs that have certain usual placements. Some songs are first set songs, some second set, some openers, some set closers, and some encores.
But yes for the most part judging the different versions is about the jams.
This is a good breakdown of the way they jam: LINK
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:07 pm to PearlsLSU
Each jam is different. The songs are used as a basic structure, but it all goes forward by the band feeding off one another...some jams are purely incredible and some can fall flat. Thus the ranking system is born
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:07 pm to DeathValley85
i might recommend their 'new years eve 1995' release. solid show that covers a decent spectrum of the band, nice jamming, but not TOO "out there" where it might discourage a first-timer. if that show is satisfactory enough for you, then maybe you can check out some shows with lengthier & more ambitious jamming.....
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:12 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:
They play a song and there is an fairly standard outro from the song to the jam. They play around with the central theme of the song for a while and either start a new song, or improvise in a separate direction completely.
They don't write setlists. They have an idea of stuff they haven't played recently and they figure the sets out as they go. Like the dead there are songs that have certain usual placements. Some songs are first set songs, some second set, some openers, some set closers, and some encores.
But yes for the most part judging the different versions is about the jams.
Thanks for the info.
I saw them once at Bonnaroo and have couch toured before but never really understood how it worked. ha
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:19 pm to TreyAnastasio
Start with Tweezer Reprise
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:22 pm to vandelay industries
quote:
i might recommend their 'new years eve 1995' release.
This.
As far as official releases go, this is the best route.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:43 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
I love their 4/3/98 show
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:59 pm to Paul Allen
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I love their 4/3/98 show
Yep, definitely a top 10 show of all time. Mike's Song opener is very heavy, an epic jam emerges in the very exploratory Roses Are Free, and the show is topped off with the Carini->Halley's Comet->Tweezer Reprise. Not to mention top versions of Weekapaug Groove, Piper, and Run Like An Antelope. This is as good as it gets.
Always loved this clip of the Tweezer Reprise
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:14 pm to DeathValley85
Looks like KG found the thread...
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:21 pm to DeathValley85
Find some phish and put the time into listen to it. Don't listen to most the noobs on this board.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:33 pm to DeathValley85
I've tried listening to them, but I just don't get it. I'm not interested in hearing never-ending jams. Maybe if I was on the drugs or something...
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:34 pm to Brinner
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Don't listen to most the noobs on this board.
Ok. At least people were giving actual examples as opposed to
quote:
Find some phish and put the time into listen to it.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:48 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:
They don't write setlists.
They definitely do. But they improvise from there. They may one or two that they change but most of the set is already written in stone
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:50 pm to PGT Beauregard
quote:I would think so too but Trey said they don't do set lists on that Wilson/Seattle doc.
They definitely do. But they improvise from there. They may one or two that they change but most of the set is already written in stone
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